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Sevengen on 19 February 2014
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ArnoldRimmer said:
Sevengen said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
Sevengen said:

I'm just as entitled to question your perception as you are mine...

You seriously wonder why I have such a problem accepting that word???
Alright, fair being fair, than you have to agree with me wondering why you can't accept that it's not a peripheral.
Right?

Huh? It's not like everyone can simply define his own meaning of a word, a word like "peripheral" has a rather clear definition, that one can, for example, look up on Wikipedia. And the Wikipedia article makes perfectly clear that something similar to a webcam is indeed a "peripheral" - as are, for example:

  • computer mice
  • keyboards
  • graphics cards
  • scannners
  • microphones
  • speakers
  • webcams
  • DVD drives
  • and even hard-disks

Wikipedia states "According to the most technical definition, the only pieces of a computer not considered to be peripherals are the central processing unit, power supply, motherboard, and computer case."

I'm just pointing out that unlike other definitions, the definition of a computer/console peripheral is very clear and specific, and according to that definition, Kinect is clearly a peripheral.

Well, so that was my rationale for not accepting that it's not a peripheral: The usual definitions of "peripheral" clearly state otherwise.

 

So now, please explain why YOU cannot accept the official definition of a "peripheral", as to me it seems like for some reason you consider the word "peripheral" to have a negative touch that questions the usability of a device. (I would for example say that the word "gimmick", which the Kinect is often called, indeed has a certain negative touch).

look man.. it's included with every Xbox One sold, it's intergral to the operation of the system. Period.
End of story.
It's not a peripheral and it doesn't matter how many responses you come up with to try and contradict me.
Like I just got done telling Shinob...
take away the traditional controller can you still do everything you want to do on Xbox One other than play games that 'require' a traditional controller....
Yep!
Soooooooooooooooooooo.. it if the traditional controller gets hit by a bus, or stolen by thieves, or flushed down the toilet, or thrown away by your mom, or used in a weird way by your sister and hidden beneath her mattress... can you still use your Xbox One.
Yep!
we're done here.

Good lord, I think I have never seen such ignorance. Even faced with clear proof that your understanding of the word "peripheral" is simply wrong, you choose to ignore any facts that don't fit your opinion, and come up with pretty much the same, completely pointless argument.

see here we go...
now did imply that you were ignorant, or that you're opinions were ignorant.
NO.
I kept it relatively friendly and I was able to do so because my argument didn't/doesn't need insults to help bolster it's premise.
Obviously your does, which is where you truly lose the discussion.
When a person's argument devolves into personal attacks, that's the point where they know they've lost... because they can't manufature any further logic to sustain their point and end up giving into frustration.
later Arnold.
better luck next time.