WW HW/SW Up 25th January 2014 (US Has A New King)

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vivster said:

binary solo said:

vivster said:

I'm still curious about how much impact Titanfall will have. That way we could gage the impact of Halo 5 a bit.

I still don't think that price is the biggest issue with the box and that it is marginally influencing sales. It's the missing system sellers and the media backlash. I'm pretty sure that if Halo 5 would've been an exclusive launch title that the WW sales would look pretty different now. PS4 is not that successful because of its price either. It's much more the media hype and the disappointment that was the PS3. Sure some people switched over from X360 to PS4 but those will most likely buy the X1 if their favorite exclusives from last gen hit the console. It's just that not many Xbox fans have jumped at the upgrade yet. Over this year and at the very latest with Halo (north american) people will swarm to their console, massive price cut or not.

TF and H5 are very different beasts. If TF really lifts sales then you can reasonably expect even more from H5. But if TF is just a blip it would be of no predictive value for H5. The TF effect will be an interesting one to watch.

Unless the the average gamer really does care about specs, then the only real difference between PS4 and Xb one is price. PS4 doesn't have any system sellers either, and so lack of Xb one system sellers isn't a reason. There really is nothing to explain the 150K lead PS4 currently has other than price. Or do you doubt that Xb one would be ahead in Nth America if Xb one and PS4 were the same price? I think if both launched at $399 then Xb one would probably be ahead of PS4 by at least 150K. So the price effect, I think, is at least 300K in sales, and arguably because of PS4 supply constraints the demand differential is probably even greater than that.

Actually yes. I would doubt that a $399 X1 at launch would've made a huge difference. Maybe it's just me but I think so far the main consumer who bought one of the consoles was already a fan of the previous model. 100$ is like nothing for avid gamers. That's not even 2 games. What helped sell the PS4 and dampened the sales of the X1 was the press. The press of the fact that the X1 was more expensive than the PS4 was much more damaging than the price itself. Also of course the whole DRM and stuff business. The mainstream consumer who is not an early adopter and who cares about stuff like prices didn't even consider buying a X1 or PS4 yet. So MS can still catch them next holiday.

The PS4 didn't sell because it was cheap(-er) , it sold because there was a huge amountof hype in the gamer community aka the people most likely to buy a console at launch. It would've probably sold about the same if it was $100 more.

But maybe it's just that I lost all sense for money.

Indeed, that's 2 games!

It's true indeed that fence sitters are not the early adopters. Does that mean the 360 install base is more fence sitter-y than the PS3 base? I don't think so. 

I also think the media effect is overblown. The Xbox 180 did a lot to rehabilitate the brand. Certainly there were a lot of people on this site and other places who did a 180 on the Xb one at the same time as MS did.

If you think $100 is nothing to get excited about, what do you think a $100 price cut for Xb one would do?