binary solo said:
vivster said:
Itbinary solo said:
vivster said:
FinalFantasyXIII said:
binary solo said:
Everything bad except PS4.
Xb one just over 50% of PS4 has got to be a worry. When PS4 releases in Japan, and when Xb one gets only a few thousand sales per week from the 2nd tier markets it's possible that PS4 will regularly be 2:1 vs. Xb one.
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With Japan it should be 3 to 1 for at least a month when it launches I would imagine. I hope longer though, because I want to see 11 million PS4 to 5.5 million XB1 before CHristmas 2014. If XB1 stays around 50k a week/200k month and PS4 stays 150k a week and 600k month till holidays Feb-Nov = 10 months = XB1 = +2 million more sales and PS4 would average 6 million more sales.
So with XB1 @ 3.4 ish that would be 5.5 million, and PS4 @ 4.9 ish with 6 million = almost 11 million. If that would remain then by Christmas the PS4 will have double sales on hardware over XB1. 11 m to 5.5 mil, I love it! Because then there will be so many 3rd party titles for the PS4 with great hardware to push those games! Which should make for an amazing generation of games! I think it will be more like 14 mil for PS4 and 7 mil for XB1 by Christmas but who really knows. That's just my basic speculation at the moment.
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I admire your optimism but you shoudn't count out MS's market power. I'm pretty sure that MS will have one or 2 massive bombs at E3 to reveal. I'm talking price cuts, more monster exclusives like Titanfall, bundles with non gaming related products and content cooperation for their entertainment network.
Sony will also bring the big guns to E3 but I don't expect anything gamechanging and rather an evolution of what they've done so far. PS4 is pretty much at the pinnacle right now and there is not much to improve so the huge potential to turn things around lies with MS.
My prediction is that the X1 will win back the american market by the end of the year to such an extend that they might be able to equalize the sale difference from Japan. Of course they'll still be a good measure behind WW because of the 2:1 in europe.
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North America is still very much in play for sure. 10K difference in a given week is pretty negligible, and is within margin for error. But, unless PS4 does no better than WIi U in Japan I think Japan+North America will come out in PS4's favour most weeks. PS4 and Xb one will mostly be neck and neck or PS4 marginally ahead for as long as there is a price difference in favour of PS4. And the longer that price difference lasts the more likely it is that PS4 will edge out Xb one in the long term. But, unless there are still supply issues keeping PS4 low I must say I am impressed that Xb one is strongly competing with PS4 in North America.
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I'm still curious about how much impact Titanfall will have. That way we could gage the impact of Halo 5 a bit.
I still don't think that price is the biggest issue with the box and that it is marginally influencing sales. It's the missing system sellers and the media backlash. I'm pretty sure that if Halo 5 would've been an exclusive launch title that the WW sales would look pretty different now. PS4 is not that successful because of its price either. It's much more the media hype and the disappointment that was the PS3. Sure some people switched over from X360 to PS4 but those will most likely buy the X1 if their favorite exclusives from last gen hit the console. It's just that not many Xbox fans have jumped at the upgrade yet. Over this year and at the very latest with Halo (north american) people will swarm to their console, massive price cut or not.
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TF and H5 are very different beasts. If TF really lifts sales then you can reasonably expect even more from H5. But if TF is just a blip it would be of no predictive value for H5. The TF effect will be an interesting one to watch.
Unless the the average gamer really does care about specs, then the only real difference between PS4 and Xb one is price. PS4 doesn't have any system sellers either, and so lack of Xb one system sellers isn't a reason. There really is nothing to explain the 150K lead PS4 currently has other than price. Or do you doubt that Xb one would be ahead in Nth America if Xb one and PS4 were the same price? I think if both launched at $399 then Xb one would probably be ahead of PS4 by at least 150K. So the price effect, I think, is at least 300K in sales, and arguably because of PS4 supply constraints the demand differential is probably even greater than that.
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Actually yes. I would doubt that a $399 X1 at launch would've made a huge difference. Maybe it's just me but I think so far the main consumer who bought one of the consoles was already a fan of the previous model. 100$ is like nothing for avid gamers. That's not even 2 games. What helped sell the PS4 and dampened the sales of the X1 was the press. The press of the fact that the X1 was more expensive than the PS4 was much more damaging than the price itself. Also of course the whole DRM and stuff business. The mainstream consumer who is not an early adopter and who cares about stuff like prices didn't even consider buying a X1 or PS4 yet. So MS can still catch them next holiday.
The PS4 didn't sell because it was cheap(-er) , it sold because there was a huge amountof hype in the gamer community aka the people most likely to buy a console at launch. It would've probably sold about the same if it was $100 more.
But maybe it's just that I lost all sense for money.
