| MDMAlliance said:
1 Honestly that isn't "proof" as it's simply a picture of Wii U games. However, I do not care whether or not you have a Wii U. It seems like you still don't understand what I'm saying. I am saying that just because you have a Wii U doesn't mean you are suddenly 2. unbiased and 3. know what you're talking about in regards to the Wii U.
1. Indeed, just a pic on MY domain with games matching MY collection.
I was simply saying that showing a picture of a collection of Wii U games does not constitute as proof. Anyone can take a collection from online and reupload it. I wasn't trying to say I don't believe you, I was just countering the fact that it's not proof. I was only leaving that option on the table, but you clearly didn't see that and want to seem victimized.
2. I guess unbaised means not criticising a console I own, noted.
You're doing it again. I am saying that claiming you have a Wii U doesn't make you unbiased against the Wii U. It's just like seeing a person say "PS Vita sucks because the games suck" and they say they have a PS Vita, therefore they aren't biased against it. It doesn't work like that. That was all I was saying with that statement. Either you're trolling or you simply aren't as smart as you think you are.
3. Owning one gives me a clue to what Im talking about thank you very much.
Not really. Owning something doesn't automatically mean you know everything about that product. All it gives you is credibility to its experience. That's all.
Also, your original comment does deny the "jump" by saying it is 1 "offset." That is by definition trying to argue that the 2 jump doesn't matter (while in context with this thread) as standalone. 3. What happened the previous generation should have no bearing on the difference from Wii to Wii U.
1. Where I come from, offset doesnt mean deny.
I didn't say they meant the same thing. In the context of the sentence, it is what it's implicitly doing.
2. The jump happened but its effect on consumers and the industry is minimal because the rest of it made the jump in 2005. The Wii U wont do anything that hasnt been done already in the console space.
Again, you are off topic. The thread is NOT about sales or consumers. It is about Wii vs Wii U compared to PS3/360 vs PS4/XBO. I have been telling you that over and over again, but you never seem to get the message.
3. Convenient new rule youve made up, which doesnt really make any sense. Of cousre it serves you to leave that out so that the Wii Us so called "leap" cant be put into context.
I didn't come up with this "new rule." I have been talking about it this entire time. Rewatch the video. This thread is about the video. The video is, for some reason, thinking that the Wii vs Wii U leap is significant. I already told you myself that I don't think there's much point to the video. However, you keep going off topic and talking about something else entirely. It doesn't even make sense to bring it up, given what he said in the video. For the 100th time, watch the video. Pay attention. Maybe you still have some hope of understanding what it means.
You're still not getting it. The video wasn't about saying "Wii U is so powerful." It's making a rather pointless argument that the Wii to Wii U jump is actually 1. substantial. If you paid any attention to the video or 2. had anything worth saying, you would know this already.
1. Again, how is matching 2005 era technology in 2013 substantial? If Nintendo operated in a vacuum maybe.
Wii vs Wii U jump has nothing to do with the "era" of technology. The video was in CONTEXT of that vacuum you're referring to. I am not making that argument, you keep trying to make it seem like I am. You are off topic when you make those comments because the video isn't ABOUT what you're talking about. REWATCH THE VIDEO. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S BEING SAID. MAYBE YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT. That is why your comment in this thread is a problem.
2. My point that leap is offeset by the Wiis low base is perfectly valid. Its a big jump but thats 8 years overdue. I dont see whats wrong with what I said, consideringat leat 3 other people here have said the exact same thing.
Your point is only valid if it actually made sense in context of the video. It would make more sense outside of this thread. HOWEVER, it's not. You decided to make that comment HERE. To try and contribute with that comment HERE. THAT is the problem. While I did see other people saying something similar, it seemed much more like some kind of repetition of something said earlier in the video. You, on the other hand, talked about it as if in response to the video itself. It would make no sense to say something like that in response to the video. Watch it again and you'll see what I mean (as long as you understand what point he's trying to get at).
1. Your second comment was also pointless because it's completely off topic. It has nothing to do with the video or what 2. I was saying. It's like you're trying to change the argument so you can win, but we aren't even arguing about that. 3. I am simply stating the truth about what you said with your original comment pretty much trying to put the Wii U down by being off topic.
1. I was trying to explain how to the consumer and the industry, the Wii U s jump will largely go unnoticed because of the PS4 and X1 own technological advances. Of course choose to ignore that. And the 3 other people who have said the exact same thing I did in this thread, who you also choose to ignore. I dont why Ive upset you so much
It's off topic, regardless of what you want to say. Also, I personally did NOT see anyone else saying what you did. I see some people thinking that the jump between PS360 and PS4/XBO is larger than Wii and Wii U, but not what YOU are saying. Because making that comment IS on topic, yours wasn't. Do you get it yet?
2. It was explaining my offset stance further
Watch the video again. It's off topic. Do you not understand why?
3. Again, I was not off-topic, its just something you dont want to hear clearly.
No, I perfectly understand what you're trying to say with PS4 and XBox One. It just is irrelevant to the thread. Wii U graphics are obviously much lower than the PS4 and XBox One, and that the Wii U's advancement over its previous generation is obviously going to get overshadowed in the market in comparison to the PS4 and XBox One. Of course those aren't the only deciding factors, but that isn't even what this thread is about. It's off topic, and that's what's wrong.
Do us all a favor and actually pay attention next time so you will actually see that the video wasn't about Wii U winning this generation, but rather that Nintendo made the biggest improvement within their 1. own line of hardware for this generation. Like I have said so many times already, I'm not saying it's a good argument. Your comment just simply isn't talking about the same thing.
1. Again, even within the Nintendo vacuum that holds no water as its offset the low base of the Wii. I dont know why this basic logical fact is so hard for you to understand.
The one who is failing at basic logic is you. You need to understand that there's a certain topic of this thread, and you're going off on a tangent and running with it. The guy in the video isn't talking about its effect on the market. The video is comparing the leaps themselves. That is all. It is that basic. It's NOT going into things like "and because of this leap, Wii U will be better than PS4/XBO." In fact, if you watch the video again, he says over and over how that's not what he's saying. His point is weak and I don't know why he's making it, but you aren't even talking about the same thing he is.
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