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MDMAlliance on 02 February 2014
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SubiyaCryolite said:
MDMAlliance said:
SubiyaCryolite said:

I dont consider it to be a leap when they where and still are failry behind to begin with. What does this large leap even mean to game developers or consumers who are already exposed to the PS4 and X1?

That point doesn't even matter, look at your original comment.  It is one that tries to deny the jump from Wii to Wii U by saying that it's offset by the GC to Wii jump.  There was no point in saying that, especially given that it was already mentioned in the video.  Whether the guy in the video has a real point or not is irrelevant given how you made your response.

I dont buy the small gap argument either, it will show and when it does it'll blow peoples minds. Heck it already is. People said the the same thing about the PS2 and PS3. Hell, I said that. And yet today the difference between a PS2 and a PS3 game is beyond night and day.The Wii was barely pushed above the Gamecube even with Nintendos own titles. But when you compare launch PS3 and 360 games to what they do now, and then look at the sheer raw power inside both the PS4 and X1 things wont look good at all.

I don't even get what your point here is.  This is about Wii to Wii U, not Gamecube to Wii.  It's like you entirely missed the point.

NFS Rivals on PS4 is already leagues above NFS MW on U. If you look at NFS Carbon (a launch PS3 game) and Rivals on the PS3 and apply that to scale the PS4 then its going to be nothing short of a visual massacre.

That is 100% irrelevant given that the thread isn't comparing Wii U to PS4 graphics.  You're just ranting to make it seem like you have a point.  You don't.  No one is arguing Wii U vs PS4 graphics.  No one.

If Nintendo hopes to release a gen 9 system on par with the PS5 and XBoxTwo for example it will basically have to make TWO jumps in one go.

 

  • 1st jump, match the PS4/X1.
  • 2nd jump close to the PS5/X2 as possible.

 

That wont do them any favours, given how they are struggling with the U. They basically shot themselves in the foot, twice. 

That doesn't even make any sense.  How does making two jumps equate to not doing them any favors?  You're making a logical jump, and coming to a conclusion without even elaborating on your thought process.  Making two jumps when you're a "jump" behind doesn't take twice as much effort FYI.

 I dont put the U down, I own one for petes sake. That said I dont defend it either, not in the slightest. Truth is the Wii U has tons of things about it worth criticising. Just like the launch PS3 I call a spade a spade, not a big spoon. This system has serious issues.

No, I have seen the repeated amount of comments you make on threads.  I don't know if you even actually own one.  If you do, it doesn't mean you're exempt from being "anti-Wii U."  I don't normally respond to your comments because I usually let you have your opinions. But this time, it was just trying to take a cheap-shot at the Wii U by trying to state that the jump between Wii and Wii U is somehow taken away by the jump between GC and Wii.  Like I have said multiple times before, it is irrelevant to the topic here.  There was no reason to say it unless you wanted to keep beating a dead horse.

I dont approve of its hardware at all. Nintendo had the money and resources to make something truly decent. 2GHz quad core. 2GB GDDR5 unified memory shared with a 5670HD equivalent GPU. But nope. They set the bar low, far too low. I feel Nintendo has backed itself into a corner. I dont see gen 8 being salvaged and gen 9 will be a deciding moment in regards Nintendos future in the home console business.

Just so you know, putting better hardware into the Wii U does NOT guarantee it to do better.  The Gamecube did this, and failed.  People are comparing the Wii U to the Gamecube, but people like you need to be reminded that Nintendo did what you're thinking Nintendo should do now with the Gamecube.  The market isn't so predictable, and it is only in hindsight that you can claim it is so obvious.  

There are multiple "problems" with the Wii U, but if you look through the history of videogame console sales, you will realize that some of those "mistakes" you think is making the Wii U fail now were also present in previous consoles as well.  The issue here is much less about Wii U's hardware, and much more about Wii U's marketing and possibly software and online integration.  



Theres your proof. Every single 3rd party in that game up there runs better on the 360. Every single firts party game there is not leaps and bounds above the 3rd party games. Owning a Wii U doesnt make me blind to the fact that it has outdated technology. My original comment doesnt deny the Wii to Wii U jump, it STATES the obvious fact that the jump is insignificant when its base was so low to begin with.  My second comment was to point out how pointless it is to act like Nintendos jump is some achievement that should be lauded because it isnt, they are and will be playing cath up for the forseeable future. 


Honestly that isn't "proof" as it's simply a picture of Wii U games.  However, I do not care whether or not you have a Wii U.  It seems like you still don't understand what I'm saying.  I am saying that just because you have a Wii U doesn't mean you are suddenly unbiased and know what you're talking about in regards to the Wii U.  

Also, your original comment does deny the "jump" by saying it is "offset."  That is by definition trying to argue that the jump doesn't matter (while in context with this thread) as standalone.  What happened the previous generation should have no bearing on the difference from Wii to Wii U.  

You're still not getting it.  The video wasn't about saying "Wii U is so powerful."  It's making a rather pointless argument that the Wii to Wii U jump is actually substantial.  If you paid any attention to the video or had anything worth saying, you would know this already.  

Your second comment was also pointless because it's completely off topic.  It has nothing to do with the video or what I was saying.  It's like you're trying to change the argument so you can win, but we aren't even arguing about that.  I am simply stating the truth about what you said with your original comment pretty much trying to put the Wii U down by being off topic.  

Do us all a favor and actually pay attention next time so you will actually see that the video wasn't about Wii U winning this generation, but rather that Nintendo made the biggest improvement within their own line of hardware for this generation.  Like I have said so many times already, I'm not saying it's a good argument.  Your comment just simply isn't talking about the same thing.