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Fifaguy360 said:
walsufnir said:
ViFifaguy360 said:

My prejudices? You sound like you've never used an IDE in your life. Tell me which IDE you have used and how vi is more efficient. I'm going to call you on this "expertise" of yours.


Oh, I've used a lot. Starting from Borlands TurboPascal 5.x (this lacked syntax highlighting, sadly) TurboC++, Bloodshed's IDE, Eclispe, VS, Embarcaderos Delphi IDE, Xilinx ISE and others I probably forgot.

Nowadays I just write code in perl, bash or python, so I :
easily prefer vi(m). The text-editing functions just extend everything other editors are capable of. You can even do refactorin with vim, if you are skilled.

For being used by experts, try this:

 

Perhaps to make it more clear:

kamidphish: http://au.linkedin.com/in/danglastonbury

rygorous: coding genius, worked at Farbrausch (demoscene group), now at RAD

Martin Ridgers: http://se.linkedin.com/in/martinridgers

You named a bunch of IDE's, provided 1 vague statement about vi(m)'s capability and gave 1 reason why vi(m) is superior by mentioning refactoring. Then proceeded to name a few accomplished people which is meaningless because I can just cite that MS, Google, EA and Apple all use IDEs which encompasses hundreds of thousands of twitters and linkedins which I don't have the time/capacity to even think of fishing out for you so that's just over right there.

The question was Tell me which IDE you have used and how vi is more efficient. This is what the discussion is revolving around.


What? I didn't name them, I used them. If vims capabilities are not known to you, it's not my problem. The fact itself that you can customize and make it behave like you want makes it better than anything else out there (except escape, meta, alt, control, shift, of course).

I am *not* saying nobody uses IDEs. I am saying that for text-editing purposes, vim easily is better than built-in IDE text-editors.