kidvizious said:
enditall727 said:
kidvizious said:
enditall727 said:
And you guys are crazy for thinking Tyson was overrated. That son of a bitch was a fucking beast!! Had tremendous power with crazy hand speed and good head movement.
Tyson defined those fighters back then. Anybody who beat Tyson automatically crafted themselves into boxing history. He also beat Berbick, TNT and a couple other good fighters around those times. Tyson was fucking ferocious in that ring.
And i can't stand Edwin Valero for what he did to his wife |
Don't get caught up in the KOs. He KOd bums. Then proceeded to get KOd multiple times himself. It's easy to be ferocious against tomato cans. Put Manny/Floyd/Marquez/Donaire/etc. up against a newcomer/low level opposition and they will be blasting them left and right and you'll think they were amazing too.
Well Tyson isn't a saint himself. Raped a woman. Both are faulty of crimes. I wouldn't want to be friends with either but we're talking about inside the ring. Not outside.
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Mayweather, Pacquaio, Marquez and Donaire KO'd bums aswell so why only go in on Mike Tyson? Everybody on the face of this planet knows that Tyson had power and was capable of Knocking any one out.
If Mike Tyson would've beat Holyfield and Lewis, i bet you wouldn't consider them as good fighters. You would just try to list tgem as "bums" that Tyson easily beat. This is what it seems like you're trying to get at
You have to stop thinking this way. This logic only measures a quality fighter by seeing if they csn beat Tyson or not while completely discreditting Tyson.
Please, that Tyson hype WAS REAL! Anybody who got in the ring with him in those times would tell you that.
They did the same thing with Roy Jones. They basically used the logic of " The only good fighters Roy Jones fought were the people who beat him"
..Stop it
And Tyson isn't a saint but he did not do what Valero did to his wife
And Valero Knocked out bums. Antonio Demarco was the best fighter he fought.
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Yes, Donaire, Marquez, Pac, and Floyd have KO'd bums in the beginning of their careers but they stepped up in class and beat, KOd hall of famers/extremely high level competition. Any knowledgable boxing fan that watches ALL boxing will tell you Tyson was highly overrated and not great nor anywhere near great.
Yes, Tyson had power against Low Tier opposition. Quit acting like the guys he beat were P4P fighters cause they weren't. They were shit.
No. If Tyson had beat Lewis and Holyfield, he'd deserve to be pretty high up on the list in terms of ranking as a heavyweight but he didn't. Any knowledgable boxing fan doesn't consider Lewis nor Holyfield bums. Not trying to get at anything other than the fact that everytime Tyson stepped up to fight the best, he got KOd everytime. Hell, he got KOd by a fellow bum.
You sound like this guy I know. Only knows Tyson and considerst Tyson the greatest. Let go of the nostalgia and look at the accomplishments. Pretty crappy.
Jones was good. He beat good opponents such as Hopkins, Toney, Ruiz. But once he got caught, it was over. He didn't live up to the P4P legendary status.
Tyson has also ranted/discussed his desire to kill, his dissapointment at not killing a fellow boxer, and how certain things keep him from killing someone. Pretty freaking psycho.
Besides, stop talking about their personal lives. We are talking about boxing in the ring, Not
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