VitroBahllee said:
F0X said:
Eh, to me that doesn't seem much worse than acting like it's absolute truth. Instead, I accept it as a possible factor. Is that not rational? I desire more evidence. Something other than sales numbers would be nice. Preferably something that I can't immediately pick at.
By the way, there are quite a few Mario games with differing art styles. :P The difference are generally smaller than Zelda, though, because Mario games typically have strong tonal similarites. I believe that is what you mean by a "regular-looking" Mario game.
"To ascribe the lower sales of the stranger looking (i.e. 'style-having') games to other issues such as controller add ons and install base is reaching because there is a different supposed 'factor' involved for each game. They all have two things in common. One is the differing art style. The other is their lower comparitive sales."
How about market climate? Evolving gamer tastes? The other subjectivive and objetive qualities of either game? Considering other possibilities is not reaching-it's being thorough with analysis, and not jumping to lazy conclusions. But it doesn't matter. I don't have the time or will to fully research all of this. That's what Nintendo is supposed to do. So, I play it safe with my viewpoints while criticizing what I do and do not like.
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Fair enough, and I appreciate your perspective. But it just seems like you hear a lot of people grumbling loudly online when 'artistic' styles are shown off, and people cheering loudly when 'traditional' styles are shown off... and the sales tend to match th grumbling/cheering.
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Well, I'm not going to tell you to stop believing it. I see that happen sometimes. And some other times, those people appered to me as the "vocal minority". But I most likely haven't had the same experience as you, so it's only natural that we'd have a slightly differing view.
Man, I haven't had a good discussion like this on VGC since... mid-2012, I think. Thank you for this opportunity. ;)
