VGChartz logic

[JoeTheBro]

burninmylight said:

JoeTheBro said:

burninmylight said:

1. If it's your favorite console, never let people forget to take digital sales into account. If you hate the opposition, conveniently forget they have viable digital stores too.

Not all digital stores are equal. That's just laughable logic. I could make a thread saying Vita had sold more software than iOS. They both have viable digital stores so I must be correct.

This point is from the Wii U vs Vita thread. Do you not believe the Vita has better digital sales?

2. For some reason, bundled games don't count toward sales. Because even though countless people say they're waiting to buy a console when a specific game comes out, people never buy consoles for a specific game. It just happens to fall out of the packaging when they unbox it.

Totally agree with this one. A game is a game.

3. All data on VGChartz is bogus except when you need it to make your point.

I don't see that many people doing this. Lots consider it bogus and lots take it as truthfact. Who does both?

4. Anonymous sources are more reliable and trustworthy than industry insiders willing to reveal themselves when leaving a comment.

When they're saying something negative, yes. This point is about the Wii U devs. I'm a Wii U indie guy. If I had a bad experience with them (I haven't) I'd certainly not say it with my name attached. Kotaku and all the other sites check their info before posting. An anonymous dev in one of their articles may be giving a flawed viewpoint, but they certainly aren't made up.

Pastabin sources are of course trash.

5. Being the generational sales leader is more important than finding a successful long-term business model.

Can you clarify what you're talking about?

6. Everyone here is a tech expert who must correct the other tech experts on their spreading of misinformation. It's perfectly OK to derail any thread in order to do this. Every tech expert is also a DBZ expert (many of us are Toonami kids).

LOL fully agree. The hardest thing was(and still is a bit) for me is knowing system specs and watching two people argue with the wrong information.

What am I forgetting?

My opinions in bold.

First of all, this thread is meant for fun and not to be taken so seriously. But I'll oblige you nonetheless.

1. Never said they're equal. They don't have to be equal. I also never named specific consoles, did I? Yes, the original post came from a Wii U vs. Vita thread, but this is an entirely different thread with a different subject. Therefore, there is no need to turn this into a Console A vs. Console B thread. But even if it was, let's get back to my original point that it's not about digital stores being equal in terms of sales, it's about the fact that every single modern console (counting handhelds as consoles, just to be clear) has a viable digital store that sales both indy and retail games, yet console detractors conveniently forget this when downlplaying a specific game's or consoles sales. And the fact is, we don't know the facts for the vast majority of digital sales, so just about discussion about sales numbers needs to come with an asterisk. Unless of course, it's a game or console you don't care for.

3. Ah, but you do see it? So you acknowledge it happens. I can't name names. That would get me banned.

4. I've addressed this in my last thread. I see this issue in political and sports journalism as well. The problem with anonymous sources is that people who aren't very credible or qualified to speak on a certain matter can get away with things they would have been called out on if they didn't have the veil of secrecy. You can't consider the biases and weigh the competence of a source if you don't know where it comes from. If you disagree with me on this, then so be it.

5. Fanboys making a big deal about which console is beating the others in total sales instead of looking at the financial bottom line.

I know it's just for fun. Aren't almost all of the threads here just for fun? I didn't agree with most of your points so I wanted to give my opinion. It's not serious at all. Don't you read a lot of people's replies in the same mannor as your op and disagree with their jokes?