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Madword said:
Ronster316 said:
Madword said:
Ronster316 said:
PS4's launch line up is weak, that's the bottom line_____________.

Proof in the pudding is that it's really only the HARDOCRE beyond HARDCORE sony fans who are trying to defend it's current crop of games.

Those on neutral ground KNOW that the ONE's line up as things stand is superior.


The fact that this thread does not have 500+ posts by now proves that even most sony fans themselves can't be arsed defending PS4's launch line up. (save face basically)

Yeah you are totally right.. it's good that the console sales are proving what you say to be fact. PS4 is selling very bad compared to the XBoxOne and Wii-u... once the hardcore stop buying it, PS4 is doomed. /sarcasm.


When did this become a sales discussion?

Besides, a LOT of NEUTRALS have not bought either console yet (also, sony's hardcore fans were going to buy one regardless, just like they did with the ps2 & ps3 day 1 despite their crappy launch line up's too)

I'm not going to dispute that the PS4 has more sales.

But that launch game line up is average at best, try spin it all you like.

It became a sales discussion when people starting sprouting their opinions as fact.

You are suggesting its only the hardcore buying right now... well i would suggest record sales (for both consoles) tell a totally different story... what is Hardcore anyway... like its some special group that can only buy a console at launch or something. I guess you checked with every single purchaser to make sure they were hardcore.

Of course lots of neutrals have not purchased a console yet, 160 million are not going to go out and buy one day 1.

You talk about "Launch game line up is average at best"... well thats an opinion and not fact... so i dont need to spin it. Just like "PS4 has no games" thats opinion etc etc. The only game I wanted on XBoxOne was Dead Rising 3, in my opinion PS4 had the better line up... but thats opinion and not fact. You know what 4.2 million people also decided which console they wanted. Sure some would have been because of cost, some would have been because of the power difference, some would be because they prefer Sony... but you know what.. some would have been because they prefered the line up. Sorry to burst your bubble but sales tell the story, So i guess you are the one who should stop spinning it ;)


Just my view........ bit IMHO it became a discussion about sales because you are finding it hard to make it anything otherwise.

I admire the sony fans who came in to this thread and actually had the gonads to acknowledge that the current PS4 line up really is not that impressive at all.