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DucksUnlimited on 19 January 2014
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none of that takes away my point that Nintendo is no.1 on every chart on the front page.  Or that Nintendo has earned/saved the most money, or has higher rated games.  You think excusing this success with old/supply constrained means it's not an achievement.  You're wrong.  It is an achievement.  Everything I said was accurate. no.1 no.1 no.1 no.1 best games most earnings,  Those aren't lies, so don't call me inaccurate.  If i'm misleading then the chartz on the front page are misleading.  So, what is it you have a problem with here exactly?  Is it that i'm trying to make myself happy instead of letting everyone bring me down?  I don't need their doom drum i like the bright side, it's their if you look.

Wow. So nevermind context, let's just pretend that the Wii U being barely ahead of consoles that just released is something to celebrate. Or that a handheld in its peak year managing to outsell an old dying console by a few million is some amazing feat. Or that a company that has released 12 consoles managed to make more profit than a company that has released 3 is impressive.

If pretending that this is the case makes you happy, so be it. But making threads trying to pass these off as some grandiose accomplishments that put Nintendo "at the top of the totem pole" just makes you look ridiculous, and incapable of looking at the big picture.


our big pictures are very different.  From my perspective you look ridiculous.

In other words, you have no counterargument.

Thanks for playing.


a little premature isn't it?  You're focusing on the point of Wii U having sold the most 8th gen.  We established this was a non point (for now) yet you are still on it.  Then your other point is that 3ds success is not a significant achievement.  You know that's false, you must know it's an achievement by any standard. And finally, I'm not ONLY saying that Nintendo profited more in 30yrs than sony in 20 or ms in 10.  I'm saying they have SAVED more of the earnings AND earned more every SINGLE generation.

 

So i have no counterargument?  After all the arguments you ignored so you could focus on just these 3, you are defacto declaring you have no counter argument for the others.  Namely, Is there nothing to celebrate here?  Can you not concede a single victory to Nintendo?

Focusing on it? I brought it up ONE more time just to point out how ridiculous this thread is. That was it. And I never said the 3DS's success wasn't a significant achievement. The degree of hyperbole coming from you is insane. I said that the 3DS, in its peak year, outselling a 7 year old console which is in steady decline and has an extremely succesful succesor out, by a few million, isn't something to brag about or celebrate as far as I'm concerned. 

And those extra earnings are solely dependant on the fact that Nintendo had two systems in the wild vs only one from Sony and MS. Take away handhelds to even things out between the three and things would look completely different. Not to mention the fact that they've had far more systems out in general, and that the market before Sony and MS joined has far less competition and much lower production costs, making profits more easily attainable for Nintendo than they were for Sony or MS when they joined the market. Again, it all comes down to context, which is something you're either willfully ignoring or blissfully ignorant of.

You didn't even attempt to provide a cogent argument for the other points after I refuted them initially, so I didn't waste any further time on them. If you really feel a more thorough rebuke of these is necessary, I can be more specific.

Nintendo has plenty of accomplishments under its belt and has done a lot of great things for gaming. But looking at their current situation as if in a vaccuum and making things out to be more positive and meaningful than they really are is what I've been calling into question in my posts. Again, if looking at things in an incomplete fashion as you are makes you happy, nobody is stopping you. But spreading incomplete and out of context information in a thread as you are can be nothing but harmful.