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SubiyaCryolite said:
oniyide said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Mr Khan said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Mr Khan said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Its so funny how Sony and Microsoft s "unsustainable business models" have given them a future and how Nintendo's suddenly looking for an escape route. Life.

Because Nintendo abandoned what made the Wii successful, and the Sony/MS model is still unsustainable.

Or that the market that made the wii successful abandoned nintendo?

Again, i highly doubt this, especially on the Wii side which promoted local multiplayer and more physically interactive games. Phones aren't taking that away (unlike, say, from handhelds), and Kinect was not nearly so popular as to explain total flight. Reasoning would need to be provided to explain why a vast, diverse group of customers suddenly gained a hive mind.

last gen sold the most consoles if combining all major brands and I really doubt the core market is anywhere near that size.

The most logical explanation I can think of is that the market temporarily expanded because it was wow'd by the wii but eventually lost interest. Maybe for a brief period of time, gaming was considered 'cool' because of the wii and socially acceptable for more people? (honestly cant see a family sitting around a tv playing GTA or battlefield)

This makes sense because traditionally nintendo home consoles havent sold anywhere near 100m units, while the wii was able to do it alongside the successfull xbox 360 and PS3 which are both on 80m units.

Again, I just dont think the market is that big. I dont know where they all went, but evidently the vast majority dont seem to be coming back for the wii U, hence my reply that the market has abandoned them.

its called the blue ocean, the blue ocean isnt around anymore, judging by the lower sales of blue ocean type software and HW but some people still are in denial. They went to the phones and tablets or they just stopped playing games, period. Pick your poison.

I have these two cousins. The older a guy and the younger a girl. He had a PSOne towards the end of the 5th gen with a few titles. He then got a PS2 very early in the 6th generation, and by the time it was ending he had raked up quite a collection (20+ games). His (much younger) sister got a Wii + WiiFit bundle around 2009. Fast forward to today and thats all she has, Im trying to buy the Wiimote off her on the cheap >_>. She also has a DS, but only with Mario. Logically, Id bet on gamers like her brother rather than "gamers" like her.

People like her wont get the Wii U, or 3Ds, or whatever Nintendo decides to throw out next. I know thats just 2 people I know but it feels like thats the general state of affairs right now. The people who got a Wii simply dont give a damn anymore. The blue ocean strategy probably wont work again. They can try but I feel they will just fall flat on their face, literally if they chose VR.

Thats exactly right, thats why Sony and MS are having the success they are having now, and why I always felt that whole mostly cater to the Wii demograph was never going to last long. They are not gamers, period. These arent the people buying SW all year round.

its not just two people you can see it on the charts. They need something BRAND new