Aielyn said:
I'm going to stop you right there. If you really think that developer is the same thing as publisher, then you have no idea what you're talking about. Marvelous has multiple studios, just as Activision has Treyarch, Infinity Ward, and Raven Software, amongst others, or like Nintendo has Retro Studios, Intelligent Systems, HAL Laboratories, etc. In the case of Harvest Moon, the studio's name is Marvelous Interactive. Beyond that, here's the list of studios that Marvelous has published games from on PS3: Access Games, Feelplus, Neverland, and AQ Interactive. Of these, Access and Neverland are/were separate developers (not owned by Marvelous in any sense), while Feelplus was owned by AQ Interactive, which then merged with Marvelous in 2011, after all of the PS3 games had already been released. So Marvelous hasn't developed a single game for PS3. To quickly address your other claims... I didn't say XBLA games made it notable, I said XBLA games prove it's not first-party. If making three big games doesn't make you notable, then the number of notable studios is much, much smaller (and yes, Valhalla Game Studios is notable - have you not heard of all of the hype around Devil's Third? But I didn't list them because they haven't released any of their games, yet). The fact that you, specifically, haven't heard of a developer doesn't mean they're not notable - kind of like how you probably couldn't name the king of Norway, but he's still an influential person. That they've mostly made PC games doesn't mean they're not notable, and the claim was "all notable third-party developers". If the studio has been notable, and still exists, it's still notable. If they make one notable game from the generation in question, they're notable within that generation. |
Look up Victor Interactive (the group that made the Harvest Moon games) right now and tell me what pops up. Then look up Marvelous Interactive. If you don't want to, I'll let you know that they don't exist anymore. They aren't a subsidiary of Marvelous. They aren't an internal studio. It's all "Marvelous Entertainment" now. That company is merged into Marvelous Entertainment. Note how that link says "former" subsidiary. "On March 20, 2007, Marvelous Entertainment Inc. announced Marvelous Interactive Inc. would be merged into its parent company, Marvelous Entertainment Inc., effective on June 30, 2007". They are fully merged into Marvelous Entertainment. It'd be the equivalent of Naughty Dog becoming "Sony" or "SCE".
If Treyarch, Raven, or IW merged into Activision, it'd be the same thing as well. But they remain separate entities. MI isn't a separate entity. Look up A Tale of Two Towns. It'll say "developed by Marvelous Entertainment" not "developed by Marvelous Interactive". But enough of the semantics.
Tetris and Jewel Master Twinkle are "big games" now? Guess the bar has been lowered. And there's like...no hype around Devil's Third. Barely anyone has talked about it, and it's not on many people's list of games they want for 2014. And the fact that a developer only makes PC games is noteworthy in this conversation. I should be implied that third parties, in the context of this thread, means parties that develop games on consoles. It's disingenuous to say "ArenaNET haven't made a console game. Haha! You're wrong!" when they don't even make console games, period. Otherwise, you might as well list off a bunch of iOS devs as well
