Nintendo lowers forecast from 55 billion yen profit to 25 billion yen loss

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superhippy420 said:

Soundwave said:

superhippy420 said:
I still don't think the Wii U's problems have anything to do with hardware specs or the tablet controller, but has everything to do with the lack of big 1st party games, and Iwata should be taking the blame for this. 3rd Party games have never sold / carried Nintendo's consoles, and they could have pretty much every 3rd party game out there and it still wouldn't matter. People want Nintendo games for their Nintendo Console. The "Wii" franchise (Sports,Fit,Play), Mario,Zelda,Mario Kart, Smash Bros,Donkey Kong,Animal Crossing. Metroid,Kirby,Starfox,F-Zero,Pikmin and all of their other franchises have always been 1 - 2 million sellers and none have ever moved consoles, but have been solid software sellers for Nintendo when their base is there. For Nintendo in their 1st full year to only release (of their big franchises) 2 rehashes (NSMBU,Wind Waker HD), and 1 semi-sequel(SM3DW) is pathetic. For as much as I love SM3DW, it should have been a brand spanking new Mario game that we have never seen before like SMB,SMW,SM64, Sunshine,and Galaxy. I do think Nintendo will do much better in 2014, but they better bring atleast 4 more games on top of Smash,Kart,DK,Bayonetta,X,and Hyrule Warriors. Also Wonderful 101 was a huge mistake, maybe with a big install base it would have done better, but to try to move consoles with it was a big miscalculation. The 3DS fell below expected sales, but it's still making Nintendo money no doubt. It's biggest problem is it has not found its NSMB/Nintendogs/Brain Age to really pump up sales, but thats what happens when you don't take a few chances with some new IP's.

The whole "we're going to make a console almost one full generation behind the others!" formula just doesn't work without a blockbuster type of controller to go with it. 

That's where that whole house of cards falls apart. 

Your average consumer couldnt care less about hardware specs.  If that was the Case Vita would be outselling the 3DS by 40 million, the Gamecube would have destroyed the PS2, and Sega would still be a console manufacture.    The house of cards fell apart when Nintendo refused to speed up game development.  Pikmin was delayed, Donkey Kong was delayed, Wii Fit U was delayed, Mario Kart has taken too long, and Smash Bros has taken way too long.  I love Sakurai, but to have him balanced Smash Bros by himself in 2014 is retarded.   I know that game is his baby, but let him manage a team, not do the thing by himself.  Iwata should be canned, the guy is running a gaming company with franchises / properties that sell themself and he is finding a way to screw it up.

Starting from the SNES Nintendos home consoles have been in decline as has the number of high profile 3rd party games on their devices hve steadily reduced. The playstation 1 was built almost entirely on 3rd party support. Same can be said for the PlayStation 2.

I dont understand how/why one would think third partys are irrelevant. It really boggles my mind. Imagine if the Nintendo 64 had gotten CDROM and Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX as planned? Do you honestly think that would have had zero effect on its lifetime sales? Even Nintendos portables have tons and tons of Japanese 3rd party support (the western developers havent embraced handhelds much) and none of them would be as successful as they are without them.

Nintendo needs to stop isolating itself over and over each console generation. They did it with the Wii and have done it again with the Wii U. Except this time the Wii U is selling like wonders off the hype of the WiiMote. At this point it should be clear to everyone that th Wii was a lucky bet on Nintendos part. Wii U could have been Wii HD with motion plus and PS4 level graphics, it would sell better than the WiiU currently is but never touch the original Wii, not by a longshot. That kind of strategy will NEVER carry a home console ever again.