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lucidium said:
Michael-5 said:
lucidium said:
Michael-5 said:

Nintendo is innovative, you yourself have agreed with many of my points, no sense arguing over details.

Yes, they are

In the end, you agree with me, so what are you arguing about?

Advances in Technology =/= Inovative. It's how you use it. I'll admit XBL and achievements were innovative on MS's part, that's why I listed those as the 2 innovations by Microsoft compared to Nintendo's 10+. As for Sony, I really can't think of any, and the stuff you mentioned are only really advances in tech.

The Wii-mote was innovative, maybe it wasn't the first motion controller, but it was the first successful and properly done one. Same with the 3DS, it might not have been the first, but it was the first proper one. In this regard I would also credit MS for Kinect because it's significantly different from the Wii. However had it not been for Nintendo, MS would likely not have made this system.

We were never actually arguing, i was correcting you on some things while introducing others.

Also, and this is the real kicker, achievements were done before microsoft, again, by Atari, then later Nintendo, only rather than a pointless number or virtual trophy, you could get physical badges and goodies for your efforts.

Oh right, you were "correcting" me....mmhmm. this is how you talk down.

Atari never had a main hub on the console for collecting achievements......heck you're the one who mentioned the networking ID system as an innovation for MS, now you're arguing against it?

Anyway if you think an ethernet port is inovative, when previous consoles had online with the technology present (dial up) then....you don't know what innovation is. No wonder you're trying to argue Nintendo being irrelevent.

Plus everything aside, you agreed to the bulk of my comments about why/how Nintendo is innovative. Weather you like it or not, you yourself have awknowledged Nintendo as an innovation leader.



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