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seiya19 said:
lucidium said:
Metallicube said:

I'm speaking soley in terms of SOFTWARE here. Do you really think Sony's studios have been more succesful than Nintendo when it comes to games?

More successful? no.
As successful? yes.
Less successful? no.

Prove me wrong, with actual, tangible evidence.

Here are the 200 best-selling games of all time according to VGChartz:

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=

Number of games published by Nintendo: 80 (best-selling game: Wii Sports - 81.77m, or Mario Kart Wii at 34.25 for a less bundled example)

Number of games published by Sony: 14 (best-selling game: Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec - 14.98m)

*Numbers don't include games that were only published by them on specific regions, like Professor Layton, Final Fantasy, etc. Remakes/enhanced ports and licensed games are included. Spyro and Crash games originally published by Sony are included.

Here's a list of best-selling videogame franchises from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises

Best-selling Nintendo franchises:

- Mario/Super Mario - 446.53m/262m

- Pokémon - 245m

- Wii/Wii Sports - 192.76m/109.74m

- The Legend of Zelda - 68.13m

- Donkey Kong - 53.94m

Best-selling Sony franchises:

- Gran Turismo - 70.02m

- Ratchet and Clank - over 27m

- God of War - 21.65m

- SingStar - 20m

- Uncharted - 17m

Numbers don't lie. Nintendo has, so far, being far more successful than Sony when it comes to 1st party software. And it's no secret that the success of Playstation platforms has historically got a lot to do with 3rd party support. Franchises like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, GTA, Tekken, and Tomb Raider, for example, which Sony fans themselves associate with the brand, for better or worse.

now compare sales performance for first party games that were new IP's on comparative systems, keeping in mind that no comparative games were available prior to the PlayStation 1, and of course ignoring heavilly bundled titles such as Wii sports.

Comparatively software based from:

PS1 - N64
PS2 - Gamecube
PS3 - Wii

It's all very well throwing out numbers such as lifetime sales of entire franchises when they span 11 major device models in the past 30 years compared to just 5 in the past 19, but that doesnt exactly paint a picture a sane person would call accurate.

Additionally, Metal Gear Solid was the first proper Kojima produced game to release on a console, with Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake only seeing releases on the MSX computer, the NES port of Metal Gear and the sequal Snakes Revenge that appeared on the NES were not done by Kojimas team, the latter of which reviled to the point where Kojima was asked to make a "proper sequal" which is why the Metal Gear 2 was released on the MSX AFTER the the NES release of Snakes Revenge.

Many metal gear fans do not count the NES games as part of the main series but rather as spin offs.