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thismeintiel said:

I was talking about 2013 in my original reply to you, do keep up.  Not, sure why you're dwelling on '07 so much.  You suggest Sony got 3M more than what they were selling, yet act as if same could never have happened to MS.  Bias much?

As for the channel stuffing, I just know it has been repeated on here quite a bit that early on MS did so to reach their arbritrary "gen winning" 10M figure, first.  The members who have said so (reason given was sales numbers being greatly below shipped) have been on her longer than I have been, nor have I seen them be challenged on this, so I figure it must be true.

Anyway, this is completely off topic to the thread about 4.2M+ PS4s being sold, so I will end this here.


Once again, the topic was the confusion amongst 2007 users. i don't care if you bring up 2013, the original topic was 2007, even before you started your reply....do keep up.

Oh my, you really ARE 2 steps behind, aren't you? Once again, if you're comparing shipping to sales, which is part of the ORIGINAL TOPIC, then you'd be on to something, but to half-state a sentance about Microsoft doing...something to reach some pathetic figure nobody cares about, and not mention WHERE in the process these units were being stacked (unlike the Sony side, which was CLEARLY between shipping and retail) and expect anyone to take it as the gospel becaue "it was repeated on here quite a bit" seems like a laughable proposition.

By the way, since you weren't around here in 2007, you really have no ground to stand when I state that of the new members who came to this site in 2007, the clear majority of them that claimed an undertracking bias were in Sony's favour, and citing Sony's financial report that displays SHIPPING figures. Oh and way to take the "religious stance" on this... "Well it happened before my time, and I don't hear legitimate criticism, so it must be true". Gold!

Caught up, yet? Are you going to bullshit further on about something that started off as a QUESTION TO AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED BEFORE YOU WERE HERE?!?! I sure hope not...you should see how foolish it's making you look...

Let's see you end it here, or are just interested in getting the last word in...

Sheesh...Talk about the Spanish fucking Inquisition....