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bucky1965 said:
chris_wing said:
bucky1965 said:
Bundled editions are easy to get here in Canada. Standalone sell out quickly. And you can pick up a used one for face value and save the taxes.

News to me, I havn't seen one anywhere for over a month.  If someone is selling a used one sans tax I'd assume it's opened and actually used, not the same as the gray market new in box PS4's that still go for $500 on craigslist.

Did a little experiment after Christmas because I was  bored. On Dec 28 every online retailer had Ps4 bundle packs in stock, not standalone consoles, they're pretty much listed as sold out. It took 3 days for all the bundle packs to sell out. If it wasn't for the purchase limits, I could have bought a 100+ easily. I had a harder time getting a Nexus 7 2nd gen. Shipments arrive every 2 weeks in Canada. Bundle packs are gone within 2 to 3 days from I have been told.Everybody pretty much get their shipments at the same time. So if you're diligent enough it is not hard to pick up a bundle pack online. As for used, you could get one for $500 2 weeks after launch here in B.C. most now are face value asking price.

Let's have a link to this magical online Canadian retailer that's over flowing with bundles, or are you talking about NCIX where you have to pay tax + shipping, just checked NCIX & they are completely sold out.  Futureshop Online has also been bare of PS4's for weeks but have lot's of Xbones online & in store everytime I look, I just checked again & it's still the same, zero PS4's, lot's of Xbox Ones.  Before Christmas where I live the PS4's were being listed around $600, not to say they were selling at that price but that was the asking price, but gray market is anecdotal at best.
Anyways, what we are really talking about is demand & you'd need to ignore all evidance to think PS4 demand isn't higher than Xbone.