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Sal.Paradise on 09 January 2014
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Kresnik said:
Sal.Paradise said:

I don't give a toss about the OP's intentions or Warner Bro's Lego game sales lol, we're arguing specifically about P5's chance of hitting 1 million in the real world, not VGChartz 1 million. If you thought I was arguing this whole time about whether it would hit 1 mil on VGC then sorry I didnt tell you earlier. 

'I think it has a dedicated userbase in both the west and the east who buy the game, but they don't come anywhere near to 1 million'  - I just don't understand how you can think that when it has a 'dedicated userbase' big enough to get a game to 700k on one of the floppiest systems of all time. 


No, we're not.  Or at least, I wasn't.  Since this argument was brought up in the first place about potential PS3 million sellers in the database yet to come and that's why I doubted Persona 5 would get there.  I suppose it might well ship + digital a million, but that's not what I was referring to.  It's why people like Barozi were bringing up earlier in the thread that certain 360 games are missing European numbers because again, it's to do with database tracking.

@ bold, that was my point about opportunity.  Persona 4 Golden is the highest rated game on Vita.  It was the only JRPG released in 2012 for the system and only really had a challenge in 2013 from Ys at the end of the year and I suppose the downloadable Atelier games.  That kind of circumstance is going to net it more sales when people have a shiny new piece of hardware and want some of the best games for it.  It's going to be less of a factor for PS3 which will be in its 8th/9th year of life by the time P5 releases.

Alright, so we were arguing about slightly different things. So do you think it is more likely to reach 1 mil total in real world figures or not, if you had to guess? 

I get that last argument and I bet it was a factor in its sales, but not a big one. Tearaway is rated highly and released in a barren period for Vita (which is, like, all the time in the west) but we know how that game sold. And since you mentioned YS, I bet that isn't lighting the world on fire sales-wise either, yet it's in a similar situation to P4G. And if you're saying P4G being one of the few JRPGs on Vita helped it sell the numbers it did, I think the audience for the type of JRPG Persona is is even stronger on PS3 than it is on Vita, even with more competition on the system. (You can look at 'competition' another way, those JRPGs that came before on PS3 have etablished the audience for games like Persona on the system, and upcoming titles like Zestiria will ensure JRPG gamers stay active on the system, whereas P4G had to do all the heavy lifting itself on Vita barring double digit selling otaku games).