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Slimebeast said:
toastboy44562 said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Sony announcement of 3.Xm in

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True.

WIth your history and experience of following these things, how sure can we be of the wording in this PR release by MS in that its truly actual consoles sold to customers and not just shipped to retailers?


Its sold through.  It says so.

But manufacturers never TRULY know that figure do they, be it Sony or MS.

Yeah, they don't truly know, so what should we make of this PR release? Do you have a hunch of what it... how this 3 million sold-to-consumers-number might translate into possible shipments numbers in the Q4 2013 for MS Xbox One? Maybe that's a strange question but I think you understand what I mean sort of.

What can we hope for, 3.5 million, even 4 million shipped during 2013?


Yes they do know, they track day one updates. 3.5 million seems realistic

What's day one updates? You mean the mandatory internet patch updates that every new Xbone needs to be functioning?

Yes but MS doesn't have any past historical sales to compare with since the X360 didn't demand any internet connectivity. Let's say 95% of all new Xbone users connect to the internet during the first 24 hours. But what if that number is just 80%? It's hard to deduct the actual physical Xbone sales from the number of Day One internet updates.

I think everyone has to make that update to play games no? And to the bolded, then Microsoft is underestimating it and the Xbox One sold more than 3 million.