What's the point of no return for WiiU?

[thismeintiel]

Max King of the Wild said:

tripenfall said:
It is the current 8th generation leader you know.... I wonder about XBone, with PS4 going great guns and nil Microsoft support in Japan what's the point of no return for them? Will they sell more than the original Xbox?

Its got a 1.xx mil lead after being in the market alone for a year. It wont be the leader for long. They arent in trouble yet... the point of no return is past being in trouble... yes, both will sell more than the original xbox. Wii U wont

Yea, the One should definitely beat the first Xbox, unless 2014 turns out to be god awful.  I don't expect it to be, but I think it will do worse in every region, compared to the 360, when all sales are in.  Probably ~1M in Japan, if they are lucky.  Given the numbers we do have for EU, it doesn't seem that the One is going to be a hit there.  I'm guessing it will do half of what the 360 did, so ~15M.  It should do the best in NA, so ~40M. 

Of course, those numbers are if MS drops the Kinect and lowers the price to compete with the PS4 next year, like I expect them to.  Otherwise, numbers are going to look worse.

Edit:  Whoops, forgot @ OP

2014 is the final year to turn things around.  If the Wii U doesn't improve incredibly this year, with all the things Nintendo throws at it (probable $50 price cut, MK, SB), then its fate is sealed.  Same thing goes for the Vita, as well.  Though, I think Sony is actually making some profit off of the Vita, while Nintendo is losing money on the Wii U.