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prayformojo said:
kekrot said:

I don't think SMG2 was bad, it was just as good as the first. Only thing is that the first one was revolutionary while the second, well, was not. I've completed it two times as of now.

 

But for the next "true" 3D Mario, I don't necessarily want a Galaxy 3. All I want is a Mario game with 120 stars. And hopefully an overworld that is fun to explore.

 

EDIT: Hopefully the team will learn from the Zelda team that you don't need super linearity or handholding in every game.


What as "revolutionary" about Galaxy? It didn't reinvent the wheel like SM64. Nothing in it's mechanics was new. Gravity play had been done before in many of platformers, Rachet and Clank for one. It didn't change the industry like SMB and SM64 etc. Those are definition of revolutionary because it changed the entire industry. 

Galaxy was great, but revolutionary? I don't see it.


Maybe I'm overestimating Galaxy a little, but it sure looked and was fresh when it came out. To the world it looked amazing, yes some games with some small gravity aspect had been released before, but you mentioned Ratchet and Clank which is a bad example since it was limited to some small unimportant stuff like going two metres up on a reactor or another tower of that kind. That felt more on rails since you couldn't jump and stuff. Galaxy took it to a whole new level, and if we go by your logic Super Mario 64 isn't any revolutionary either since 3D platformers existed before even if they sucked in comparison.

Of course Galaxy didn't anything new in terms of open worlds which was new in SM64. So I fully agree with you that SM64 is much, much more revolutionary than Galaxy. But the reason that Galaxy didn't change anything in the industry is the fact that nobody but Nintendo makes platformers nowadays. At least they don't try much.

Another thing, while Wii Sports is much more revolutionary than Galaxy with its accessible design, I still think Galaxy was revolutionary in terms of the scope of the controls. Super Mario 64 was just much more revolutionary.



Yep.