Is the evolution story really scientific?

[Ganoncrotch]

lestatdark said:

ganoncrotch said:

lestatdark said:

You people should really let go of Oosnap threads, because they operate in the same fashion always.

He posts a massive wall on non-coherent text, links to a few random, non-credited sites in which people use the most absurd, irrational, illogical and untested claims and try to pass them as facts that supposedly make everything in the bible come true and that somehow the work of thousands of actual credited scientists is all false, and then he completely abandons the thread when people disprove him, only resurfacing when that rare someone has the same logic as his.

Heck, he once tried to argue with me that humans have the ability to live 900 years like some biblical figures did and when I presented him an extensive amount of genetic facts such as telomere length, failure of error correction in the long term by polymerases, single strand breaks, double strand brakes, accumulation of MMRs and so on, which creates a natural limit to a cellular complex, he just said that "god just doesn't want us to live that long anymore"

There's no point discussing with him anything, just let his threads go. If people ignore him, he'll move on from this site.

I had a read through a few of the posts from both sides and thoughts here on the argument and while I'll agree the OP has added little to nothing to the thread other than it's creation the other members who've added to it have helped it evolve beyond a big incoherant explosion of little order.

I agree with you there, and i'm not discouraging that exchange of ideas. The problem with the topics of Oosnap is that they're put in such an extreme manner that it also brings some extreme responses from people that completely disagree or agree with him. And since the topic creator himself adds little to nothing to the topic itself, outside the few proper debates between some participants, you're left with a very unhealthy thread which eventually gets locked (as most of his threads end).

As for the context of the thread itself, i'm both a religious man and a scientist. I'm a Wiccan and a geneticist, so I can see why a topic like evolution arouses much heated exchanges. Personally I think evolution, as the theory is currently formulated, is the most correct proposition we can offer based on the knowledge and studies we've made on it. mRNA testing has given the evolution theory a huge step forward in it's overall acceptance in the scientific community as a whole.

Aye questions like this on a gaming sales forum sorta remind me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUbjpwyesk0 Clip if from a great sketch show called "That mitchell and Webb look" not sure if they're in anyway known outside of the UK+Ireland but some damn funny stuff. They put odd spins on some pretty funny stuff from both sides some times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXCZRpxHpg well worth checking out. It's not all just religious stuff it's just very random digs at everything.

Cool to read you're religious enough to question that the Science of evolution is based on a little faith and Scientific enough to see that there is parts of evolution which question the faith of the "god did it" idea, refreshing to see. I myself am neither, born and baptized as a catholic here in Ireland but with as much belief in the stories of both people envolved with Dec25th as I grew up. I'm not 100% on the term of my belief or lack thereof, I'm 100% okie with the fact that there could be a God or Many Gods which exist I just don't happen to buy into any of the humans who are trying to pedal their wares if they do exist. Only time I visit a church would be to see a family member off as a funeral so they're not really a great happy place for me. When it comes to evolution I mean you look at things like transiant fossils between species and the leftover bits and pieces which we have on our own bodies like the Tailbone with no tail it is hard to argue with that. Close to impossible I'd wager.