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kowenicki said:

b bu but PS3 will be down by a max of 10% this year and could even be flat in japan and Europe....?

lmao

Seriously.

It is the current gen numbers that are troublesome WiiU, Vita and now even 3DS faltering.  Its actually not great news for the PS4 and ONE.  Next year will be interesting.

Sony shipped less than 12m last year... they will ship 10m this year... that's show for me less than 20% down lol... all depends how much less than 12m they shipped last year (and after the 80m in Nov it is close to 11 million than 12 million).