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fatslob-:O said:
naruball said:
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EricFabian said:
fatslob-:O said:

Your the one mad here LOL. You have yet to point out anything that is wrong with my point and on the other hand your the one that should move on because you have nothing to refute my argument. 

Why can I not claim that WII sports is better than SMG ? WII sports is THE SYSTEM SELLER whereas SMG did shit to boost the WII so WII sports is clearly of higher quality among the masses than SMG because they thought that it was worth $250 to drop on compared to SMG. 


I never said Wii Sports was not a system seller. Using your logic Wii Sports is better than every single other console game. That's why you are wrong. Sales does not mean quality. Period

Again why can't I claim that WII sports is likely better than every other console games ? What is the issue with that ? Isn't the reason you buy a console is for the games ? WII sports clearly proved itself there. Why would people drop $250 to play WII sports ? WII sports is clearly a quality title because it became a system seller. 

Just because you buy a game, it doesn't mean that you consider it a quality game. People buy games because they are fun, because their friends bought them, because they look cool (graphics, trailer) etc. I bought Pokemon Y and I think it's a good game, but not as good as Gravity Rush. I also bought wii sports and I don't think it's a good game. It was fun at first, but then it got old.  

Again, just because you bought a game, it doesn't mean you think that game is good. Quality has nothing to do with it. No one cared about Picasso and suddendly his works are the most expensive works ever. Did they magically become better after his death? NO. Lack of interest in them or in a game, has no correlation with its quality. There's a reason Shadow of the Colossus is considered one of the best games ever made and wii play simply terrible. Tons of people bought it, but most don't think it's any good. 

That's the point of a GAME! You buy a game to simply have FUN. Why should the masses not declare the game as quality when they had fun with it ? 

People did care about Picasso's work at the time! They did not SUDDENLY just became valuable, it became valuable DURING his time as an artist. Much like shakespeare's work. A lack of interest does have correlation to quality. Tell me why shadow of the colossus is considerred one of the best games. How do you know that the masses thought WII Play wasn't any good ? 

If masses buy the game because it's fun, then the game is FUN to them, But not necessarily a quality game. It might be a stupid game of no quality which is fun, but not highly regarded. Why use the word quality in the first place, when some people play certain games just for fun. Aren't all games supposed to be fun? Not really. I play Dark Souls because it's challenging, not fun. I play Diablo 3 with friends because it's fun to play with friends, but for me it's by no means a quality game. 

As for wii play, apart from checking user scores and reading comments by internet people, I don't have any evidence to support that. As a matter of fact, there is no concrete evidence for any game ever released that the masses think it's great or bad. So, it's silly to ask for concrete evidence for that in the first place.Then why use that argument in the first place? Simply because there's a general consensus on games. Super Mario Brothers 3 is ones of the most loved games of all time. Super Mario Bros 2 is not. 

Edit: Also, haven't you heard of the term guilty pleasure? Is a guilty pleasure something of quality? Or something you enjoy while knowing damn well how bad it is?