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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Slimebeast said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:


So a God that creates the Universe, makes way for your existence, knows exactly what is right and what is wrong and, potentially, answers your prayers would not be worth applying to unless you get an eternal reward in return?

Honestly, yes. As a christian I would say yes. To seek God and to try walk on the right path would mean lots of valuable time, energy, frustration and even suffering for ultimately nothing when you die at the age of 80.

I wouldn't care much about such a god.

Christianity is all about the afterlife.


Interesting. Personally I wouldn't, for instance, consider helping the less fortunate populations wasted time and energy. Nor would I consider it a waste of time to seek guidance in the Bible if I agreed with its morals.

Also, the butterfly effect should make sure that your current lifestyle has great meaning even beyond your death. Though in a more selfless form.

Relatively speaking helping others can have great meaning, but it has no (or little) inherent and ultimate value as I see it. It's not the end goal. I can't see it as a truly fullfilling purpose in life to work and suffer only for the benefit of the less fortunate. To me that's just a form of slavery. In the same way, in its essense, "guidance from the Bible" has no ultimate value.

I would never be able to motivate it like that - a creator creates a bunch of individiduals only to be born into slaves for their even less fortunate brethren and then they also got guidance from a divine book. Mean

Anyway, Christianity is far more than just helping the poor. I see it as a hope and motivation to be able to struggle though this hard life. Christianity is about the thirs for everlasting life. There's a selfish component to it. Christianity assumes every individual cares about himself at least to the extent that he wants to live forever.

Butterfly effect? lol seriously? The butterfly effect gives your life meaning?