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ganoncrotch said:

So many people came in here without reading the OP and just want to post their PC's specs, What the OP is saying is with something like the xbox360s or Ps3s complete amount of hardware could a windows PC run the same lvl of gaming, as in with 256mb of system Ram and with a 256mb graphics card of any spec on the pc, would it be able to boot up any game similar looking to anything from the ps3.

Of course the answer to this is no, you would have difficulty booting any OS after windows XP on that limited amount of system memory and the best looking games you would be talking about are CS and Halo:CE that would boot with such low system memory. You couldn't even get Post TBC World of Warcraft to run on Ps3/360 specs.

Ops point is basically how awesome Consoles are at optimization, if you were to look at whats in the box of the 2006 consoles and compare it to PC's you ofc would be blown away by what they can output. So to then compare the X1 and the PS4 to current PC components and turn around and say "meh my pc has more powerful specs" is like suggesting that the same PC which will barely run CoD:Ghosts today is going to be able to run the same games which will be running on the X1/PS4 in about 6/7 years down the line, you know it wont.


which is nice an all but doesn't change the fact that you can still build a PC that will get much better results. The OP is clearly insicure because for some reason he finds PC gamers pointing out you can have more powerful PC hardware. So they are arguing that because you can have better optimisation on consoles that consoles are more powerful, ignoring the fact that the reason PC gamers say you can get better results has nothing to do with how well things run on weak outdated hardware and everything to do with the fact you can have a order of magnitude more raw power.

Don't get me wrong optimising the shit out of something for a peice of hardware is cool. I love the demoscene and they do levels of optimisation that would make Naughty Dog's programmers curl up and cry in a corner. But that doesn't make the hardware any more powerful. Any more than a good driver makes their car any more powerful by the fact that he could beat a bad driver in a race. Optimisation is great from an accademic point of view, but I would still rather have hardware capable of playing games that push better tech at higher frame rates and higher resolutions with better effects even without that level of optimisation. Just the same as I wouldn't rather have a Commodor 64 than my current PC just because a demoscene group managed to push more animated sprites on screen than the hardware was thought to be capable of by hacking the CPU and forcing it to draw the sprites on intermittent scan lines on different parts of the screen.

 



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