fatslob-:O said:
Again you've made an excuse. If SM3DW was truly as good as it was then it would be worth $300. The point of the games is supposed to make you buy the console and what's even more pathetic is that mario is an established franchise. How do you know that it increassed the install base by 12.5% ? How do you know that the game sales don't come from the existing install base ?
Yet an established franchise by such a game as SM3DW flopped, what are you gonna say about that ? (You're probably gonna sidetep this question just like you did with the rest.) If sales are only gonna CONTRIBUTE then you CAN'T claim that their is a direct relationship to game sales. It's one or the other.
Yet an extablished franchise by such a game as SM3DW flopped, what are you gonna say about that ? (You're probably gonna sidetep this question just like you did with the rest.) If sales are only gonna CONTRIBUTE then you CAN'T claim that there is a DIRECT relationship to game sales. It's one or the other. You probably can't explain why other games like shenmue, okami, and others as well as psychonauts monumentally flopped hard in sales. FYI there's no difference between the average conumer and the soccer mom. Their normal people compared to us.
Again you can't explain the little difference in scores when comparing the massive difference to game sales. Your using excuses to cover up your failed argument. Marketing makes little difference when the game is trash. BTW BF3's metascore is only 2 points higher than BF4 so how do you explain that ? (This basically makes your marketing point null and void seeing as how you can't explain why it didn't make up for the difference between BF3 and BF4 in game sales. Again another game in an established franchise is massively under performing with largely the same reception and it's much larger marketing campaign couldn't save it. ) I amazed how well you can keep sidestepping my real questions. You didn't fix anything, you only brought up more questions. I think were done here if you can't give a reasonable explanation to other phenomens. "The highest rated game in 2008 which was GTA 4 got beaten by mario kart WII. Can you explain the same for 2009 when uncharted 2 got shitted on by COD WAW in terms of sales ? Or how about in 2010 when super mario galaxy 2 got it's ass handed to Red Dead Redemption ? You probably couldn't do the same in 2011 for why Batman got destroyed by the likes of battlefield 3. " Funny how almost all games the games had it's last iteration and is getting beaten by other games with last iterations too. There goes your shitty theory that an established franchise will make any difference to the situation at hand. |
You seem to have not paid attention whatsoever to Wii U sales over the past year. Wii U sales increased 340% in the Month of SMWD's release, the majority of that in the week/week after it's release. To claim the absurd notion that Mario did not move consoles is ignorant at best. I know the install base increased by 12.5% because It is simple mathematics. Take the number of consoles sold since it's release and look at the numbers ending 12/07. The WiiU (although not a strong variety yet) is starting to get what the "market" considers good software which is due to a contribution of reviews, marketing, etc.
SMW3D did not flop. Install base increased by several hundred thousand (and counting) and the game itself should be either at 1 mill or close to within 3 weeks of release. A game that can manage to do that one a console that had 4 million units sold is not a flop. Shenmue was release on a console that had poor sales as well. The examples you've provided sold poorly due to poor marketing. I was gaming during the Shenmue era and I can tell you there was little to no marketing for it where I lived. As I've stated, you need an array of contributing factors for a game to sell well in this day in age. You also had to factor in that the Dreamcast was an obscure console that's launch and game releases would make Nintendo proud of how the handled the Wii U. Therefore as you so oftenly quote your argument is null and void. When you are fianlly able to admit this, we will be able to move on.
What? are you completely blind? I provided you a through explanation to back up my argument. You continually digress and lie in order to try and create some delusional point to your argument in which the only one who is buying into it is you. The average metascore for BF4 across all platforms is 82. The average for BF3 is 88. I also provided the explanation to sales in regards to crossgeneration platform releases. Any fool with half an IQ is aware how that affects sales. Or do you need to be pointed to the countless articles that back this up? No, hat's not it, it must be that you are smarter than everyone else in the world "laughs" GTFO!
I've never side stepped any of your question. I provided evidence to back up my claims and refute yours. You constantly answer my questions with questions because you have nothing intelligent to contribute.
We are done because you simply cannot refute my argument . I've explained to you several times now why Mediocre-excellent Wii games had excellent sales. Your also forget to mention that MKWii was eventually bundled with ever single Wii consiole for a long time and no one can deny the superb marketing ads that were on tv for the Wii (head and shoulders above the rest). Mario Galaxy 2 OUTSOLD Red Dead Redemption when comparing to each respective console so that in itself was a poor example and you should have done your homework (once again) before spouting nonsense. Arkham Asylum was a new I.P vs established franchise with nowhere near the marketing $ behind it. You foolishly have once again underestimated the power of the Marketing $.
You obviosly have paid no attention to anything I've said and just continue to write your flaming illegible nonsense. You've completely ignored the contributing factors of game sales and claim that without any clue, review, marketing, advertisement, impulse etc the market magically determines a worthy product to purchase based on nothing. You've clearly failed.
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