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UltimateUnknown on 14 December 2013
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pokoko said:
Seece said:
He's such a twat, didn't bitch when you put your game on 360 exclusively did you?

From the Xbox days I didn't hear anyone bitching about MS, quite the opposite. In fact this 'MS treats indies like shit' has only reared its head over the last year, = propaganda.

Sorry, but that's not true at all.  Complaints have been filtering in over the last several years from some of the most successful small studios out there, including a few that started out with Microsoft.  The developers of games like Braid, Machinarium, World of Goo, Retro City Rampage, Odd World, and Meat Boy have all spoken about problems they've had with the way Microsoft deals with small developers.

Quite honestly, I do not understand the sudden hate against anyone who points out a problem.  I'm extremely happy that develpers complained about PSN years ago, as it resulted in most of those restrictive policies being thrown out.  I think that's awesome.  It means more games for me to play.  Now, however, I'm seeing a lot of Xbox fans who don't want improvements.  I cannot understand that.  Never mind that they're siding with a massive corporation against small businesses who are trying to survive--they're also siding with a massive corporation against the games themselves.  Makes no sense to me.

And, actually, Microsoft themselves seem to agree, as they've been working on changing those policies, just as I said they would last year when I made a thread about this very subject.  The complaints were varied and included subjects such as the ridiculous need to have a publisher, Microsoft's silly stance that they would not publish a game that had been on ANY other platform (the reason Machinarium skipped Live), endless red tape, not delivering on promises about promotions, patch size restrictions and costs, making developers jump through hoops, and just not treating them very well in general.  It's all out there if you go look.

pokoko have I ever told you how amazing of a human being you are? You seem to be one of the only people who actually gets it. I don't understand all this big corporation defending. If they do something wrong, then whether you are a fan or not you should be pointing it out because eventually that'll lead to a better product/service. It just saddens me that so few people seem to get this concept.

Nonetheless, you understand and I'm happy at least there's one person out there.