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pokoko on 14 December 2013
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DirtyP2002 said:
Lafiel said:
DirtyP2002 said:
another reason to hate on indies is this jerk.

Proud leader of the anti-indie-movement!

the sad thing is, that with you there always is a chance that you are not joking when making a statement like this *sigh* -_-

I am not joking at all.
The sad thing is, that you fail to see how indies are a bunch of vocal retards who managed to create about 10 good games over a whole generation for 2 platforms. They love theirselves more than their games and think there is somehow a big following for their games. There is not.

Asking $10 for a 2D sidescroller shooter is cool for guys like you, heh?
And the game can be shitty as hell, it will get great reviews anyway, because it is from an indie dev. Yeah the graphics are from the 90s, the soundtrack kills your ears and the game is repetitive, but it is somehow retro and made by an indie: 8/10!

Asking $10 for DLC for a game that has great visuals, something called online multiplayer, great sound effects and a story is a rip off though, because Activision / EA / UbiSoft are oh so greedy.

Seriously blowfish are the perfect example of what went wrong with indies. This is a game designer who made one (in numbers: 1) game 5 (!!!) years ago. Since then he gave sooo many interviews and even tried to influence how Microsoft / Sony should build their machines. He lives in an ecosystem MS created. This is the irony here. He made money, because MS created XBLA. They even published his first and only game. That was his market place. Now MS / Sony invest BILLIONS of USD in R&D for a console and he says, he wants to have a different architecture and another focus. Who the hell do these indies think they are?

Nobody pays $400 / $500 USD for a gaming console just to play Braid. He should be thankful for every blockbuster game out there, because those games are selling the hardware and increases the userbase he tries to sell his $10 download-only game to.

And this Fish guy, who made Fez, which is not even an outstanding game, talks at the GDC towards the Japanese game developers "You and your games just suck"... WHAT THE FUCK?! Those Japanese game developers basically created the industry he is working in. Yeah, I know there were games in the West as well, but yeah... The gaming industry would not be the same without Japan. Period.

I can keep on ranting, but I am getting tired.

There are great indie / XBLA / PSN games out there. State of Decay was very good for example, The Walking Dead was one of my favorite games in the past years. But the way some indies try to present themselves and their games is ridiculous. They will get away with everything, just because they are indies.

Let me first say that I did not read your post beyond the first paragraph.  I believe that's enough to understand how you think.

 Quite simply, as a gamer, it saddens me to know that I share my hobby with people who care more about defending a giant corporation than they do about the games and people who pour their hearts into making them.  If you don't want improvements then I hope you never benefit from what Microsoft is doing now.  I will never, ever, ever understand people like you.