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ppl moved on to the ps3 when the ps2 was still also selling maddens,cods,fifas after the ps3 came out.slowly but they came.. now the ps4 is already starting out at 400$ and doesn't have to wait over a year to hit that mark when the ps3 finally took off at that price and never looked back,and what was that big casual game that got the ps3 to 80M(eventually wll be over a 100M)??? I don't recall the big casual game for the ps3 that moved tons of ps3's. I think you under-estimate just how large the hardcore crowd actually is...also there are casuals that like good graphics and they will move on quicker than you think/give credit for to buy a better looking madden/fifa/cod(especially on year 2,when the sports game finally get a real next gen look)