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Seece on 11 December 2013
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Viper1 said:
Train wreck said:
Viper1 said:


Context.  It'a all about the context.

The region is Japan where home consoles do not sell 50k every week.  Not even the Wii did that very often.

The 48k is significant because just 5 weeks ago the Wii U was selling 3k per week.

Context.

Yes Viper1, context.

The Wii U was selling 3k per week (which it really wasn't, pure exaggeration on your part, the 3k was just before the launch of bundles) when:

the calendar was different, consoles tend to sell higher during this part of the year, even in japan.

there was no bundle where Nintendo was essentially giving away 100$ worth of product that wouldnt have been able to sell on it own

and the release of one of its most anticipated games (and also a update to a popular franchise).  

So yes threads like these are worthless in that they give no real context about the Wii U future, just cherry picking a good week (with pretty much all stars aligned).

Prior to bundle release:
1 week - 2806
2 weeks - 3061
3 weeks - 3354
4 weeks - 3888
5 weeks - 5748
6 weeks - 5503
7 weeks - 4845
8 weeks - 5411

3k really isn't much of an exaggeration when for 8 weeks prior to the bundle it averaged just 4327 per week.  The difference between 3k and 4327 is rather negliable.

Indeed they do sell better this time of year in Japan.  So why is it that the Wii U is seeing a jump from the 4k range to 10 times as much when no other console (home or portable) is?  Normal holiday increases would have put the console maybe into the 20k range.   And even that's pushing it.   Compared to 8 weeks ago, most devices are actually down and the increase for the 3DS and Vita are much smaller than the Wii U is seeing.

Most anticipated game is also a game many of you are calling a massive flop.  Hardly a system seller.  And the update is to another game that was called by many a complete and total flop.  So are they flops or are they successes?  Don't say it's one of the other only when it's convenient for your debate.

So is it getting a holiday and game and bundle boost?  Certainly is.  Is it noteworthy that they are being effective?  Yes.  It damn sure is because it's precisely what the console needed to move out of the doom and into the "Hey, it's actually doing OK" range.  Why shouldn't we be allowed to celebrate such matters?

And if you're going to rip on Nintendo fans for a thread like this, you better be first in line to downplay all other sales threads when a similar set of circumstances is at play.

 

Seece said:
It's STILL not great, just great compared to past WiiU sales.

Which is precisely what this thread was all about.

But no, we can't even have a Wii U is doing better than it has in the past thread without people doing all they can to make it look bad so they can feel better.

Woud you rather the thread be about denial? Like seriously if the WiiU was 500 units next week and had a 100% increase to 1000, would you really just want a thread of "OMG 100% INCREASE, IWATA!!!!!"

No.

How does sayign the sales aren't good make me "feel better" I don't mind if you Nintendo guys wanna celebrate this, have at it! Don't get stroppy when people come in and state the obvious tho.