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Jumpin said:
el_gallo said:
Jumpin said:
Hasn't Obama brought the American deficit down a gigantic amount from what Bush left it off at? Has he not improved the state of civil rights and liberties among people such as equal treatment for women's healthcare, LGBT equality, etc... How about striking back against corrupt medical insurance companies in the US? Was all of that wrong? I don't think so.

Has Bush's failures set white people back 20-50 years?


Where do you get your news? President Obama borrowed more in his first term than Bush did in two terms and he continues to borrow.

I don't think you know what a deficit is; although if you are a republican, that doesn't surprise me. It's not the amount of money which is borrowed, it is the amount of debt that that is left over on an annual basis.

Bush Junior left office with a 1.413 billion dollar deficit, and Obama has lowered it year by year to 680 billion, or less than half of the mess that Bush Junior's government left the US with.


I know what a deficit is and I know a lot you aren't stating right here. The only reason Barack Obama is not seen as raising the deficit to 1.414 trillion (not billion) dollars in his first year in office is because you haven't read the whole story. Democrats knew Bush was a lame duck president and they wouldn't pass the bills for him to sign to fund the government. (This should sound very familiar now that the situation is reversed and we know you are holding that Republican House responsible, not President Obama) Out of the 14 large budget bills they pass each year, they only passed 7 and Bush signed them. The other seven they didn't pass and instead kept going with a continuing resolution which Bush signed because otherwise the government shuts down in those unfunded areas.

Barack Obama is elected. The Democratic Congress goes back now and finishes those 7 remaining fiscal bills to fund the government for 2009 (Shorthand FY2009) and when they do finish them, they fill them up with his stimulus plan and everything else he wanted that blew up the deficit to that number 1.414 for FY2009. Each year after that he continue borrowing a similar amount but now he was responsible for all 14 funding bills and signed them all.

Once Republicans took back the House, Democrats refused to engage the budget process again because they knew Republicans wanted cuts. So they didn't even engage in the process and ran the government on a continuing resolution for nearly three years.

When Bush had a Republican House the average yearly deficit was around $250 billion. When Democrats took the House in 2006, it immediately jumped to $400 billion in FY2008 and in FY2009 it went to $1.414 trillion. However you can check the reality yourself. Bush did not sign those bills. They were signed by Barack Obama and held over by the Democratic Congress because they could see the writing on the wall with regard to election outcomes.