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Figgycal said:
spurgeonryan said:

He basically did nothing right, other than have a gift for speeches and public speaking in general.

Kind of tells the whole world what to expect if an African American is president. But this was kind of like a big thing for African Americans. Finally getting full equal treatment. All of America voting for him and then he does a horrible job.

How does him being elcted set black people back? Are lynchings a thing again? Is segregation making a comeback? Are black people not allowed to vote anymore?

Also: "Finally getting full equal treatment?" There's so many things wrong with that. That's not what happened. Black people didn't suddenly get respect because there's a black man in office. Black people are still discriminated against heavily since Obama got elected. Even amongst his peers, he is known as the "lazy president" "the foodstamp president" "a spearchucker" "shucking and jiving". There is a level of racism that goes into the criticism of the president. The people making these types of comments against Obama are the ones setting white people back 50 years.

"He did nothing right?" You cannot be serious with that. See how many things he accomplished in just his first 2 years, before the Tea Party movement. Also you claim "he does a horrible job" without looking at why. It's not just because he's a bad leader - he is constantly being opposed by the Republicans in congress and nothing gets done because of it.


He has set back African-Americans and most of America as well. The issue isn't so much that President Obama has personally gone into homes of African-Americans and sought to harm them but they excuse his incompetence while harming their own pocketbooks.

This isn't just an Obama/America thing. You see it in dozens of large metro areas all run by Democrats with black mayors that have become gigantic hellholes but nothing changes because as a group, they fear racism more than pointing out incompetence among their own.

Also the sort of name-calling and so forth you declare to be racism with Obama happens to every president. Bush before him was called a moron, and an idiot. He was caricatured as an actual monkey due to his ears. Bush generated jobs but people criticized them as McJobs and complained that everyone had three of them just to get by. Bush was absolutely labeled as intellectually lazy by his critics. No one declared that President Obama doesn't like white people when Hurricane Sandy caused massive damage, lots which still hasn't been fixed.

You prove my first point with your last point. Obama had supermajorities his first two years in office. He lost them largely through pursuing an agenda that people disagreed with but also because the Democratic Party lied about ending wars, lied about balancing budgets and getting rid of cronyism. They had both the House and Senate since 2006 and that is important to note because Clinton and Bush were both expected to govern even when the opposing party had some control. Believe it or not George W. Bush only had his party in control for 4 out of his 8 years in office. In 2000, a Senator flipped parties and gave the Senate to the Democrats. Then in 2006 his party lost both the Senate and the House.

It is not appropriate to say the guy can't do his job unless he has supermajorities in both the House and Senate becuase he ran on a platform of changing the culture of Washington and uniting the country. The point is he lied about that and the lies cost his party the House of Reps. Now due to health care lies, it will probably cost his party the Senate and grow the Republican edge in the House.

Barack Obama is a hyper-partisan, incompetent hack of a president. It has nothing to do with skin color though. He'd be just as bad and his policies and procedures just as terrible no matter his sex, race or orientation. The issue though is that his own constituents and his own party will never give him the blame and force him to change because of who he is and that is the real problem that sets back the African-American community in particular but the country as a whole.