Is X1 forcing Kinect on us any different than PS3 forcing Bluray on us?

[Michael-5]

Mr Puggsly said:

Michael-5 said:

Kinda is an insult, she's gotta be one of the ugliest actors around, and to have huh go "okay buddy"....it hurts to watch.

It's not opinion the MGS IV can't play on 360 without being redesigned from the ground up to do so. They can't just partition and port it.

~40GB PS4 games need the space, ~40 GB PS3 games probably need 20-30GB, which if they could be partitioned would mean 3-5 disks on the 360. That is if they can be partitioned, and who wants a 5 disk game? JRPG's aren't bad because they are linear, you only change disks once, but with something like The Last of Us?

OMG, so your telling me, on top of being a $700 system at launch, it could have been more expensive with a second disk drive?

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The main thing is Sony designed the system to use BR, and keep their games in that format. You can't buy a PS3 without a BR drive. Microsoft designed the XBO to use Kinect, but after serious backlash from the community, they made it possible to play XBO with Kinect off entirely. So if it's Microsofts vision to allow gamers to play without Kinect, including it is forcing it upon us.

PS3 is a very different situation because there was no option to play PS3 without the BR Drive. Maybe now that digital sales are strong, they could make an optical drive free PS3. However, they did try that with the PSP Go and it failed. Microsoft isn't doing shit, they want to increase profits, so they are forcing Kinect upon us, even though it's a part of their vision not to use it.

I'd hit it. <---Now I'll be taking everything you say with a grain of salt

Porting MGS4 would take a little work, but it can be done. Witcher 2 wasn't intended to be on multiple discs, but the developers figured out.

Pretty much all the noteworthy PS3 games are linear. Last of Us included.

They should have left out the cell and Bluray, that would have saved Sony and consumers a lot of money.

Right, both of their visions might have been bad ideas. That's kinda my point of the thread. I'm not saying putting Kinect in every box was a good idea. People in this thread are missing that point.

Porting MGS4 can be done, but it would take more then a little work. I'm sure Konami would have ported it directly if they could. This did that for MGS2 on XB, and even ported MGS3 to 3DS, but didn't port MGS4, even when they made a special collection package for PS3.

As for partitioning PS3 games, to make a 10 hour game 5 disks would be rather annoying, and I'm not sure how they could partition non-linear games like LBP, or the multiplayer in KZ3. Would you have to insert disk 1 for half the maps, and disk 2 for the other half? While physically possible, it would ruin the way way the PS3 game was designed.

I agree with you about the Cell, but I dunno about Blu-Ray, If Sony didn't make the PS3 Blu-Ray it would have cost them a lot more in the end. Not only were a lot of early PS3 sales due to it being a cheap Blu-Ray player, but having PS3 games on Blu-Ray disks helped Blu-Ray kill off HD DVD, and make Sony rich off loyalties.

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You're defending Kinect far too much, and your making Blu-Ray seem like an aweful thing.....anyway, to end this I just want to say I'm not getting either system until there is a more reliable slim model released, and I'm not getting an XBO until they remove Kinect. Going to stick to 7th gen, and likely get a Wii U by next fall.