thx1139 said:
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BMaker11 said:
Well, if you read the OP: Likewise when contacting a Target store in Folsom, California. While a store employee said he sold his store's last Xbox One earlier in the day, he was able to confirm that no fewer than two other Northern California Target locations had them in stock with the El Dorado Hills store showing eight units in stock and the store in Lincoln, California, with ten.
not to mention, when photos like ---> http://imgur.com/gallery/X3m4uW0 and http://tinyurl.com/ljsd2yw are all over the internet from hours or days after the console launched, it leads one to believe "retailers around the world are saying 'no we're not'", not to mention that's what the article's title is anyway.
And no, I don't believe that if an XBone sells and the buyer returns it, MS is then lying. I mean, the thing sold and that's what the retailer, then, reported. But when there's literal piles in several stores in several markets, as evidenced by easily accessible photographic proof, you can then extrapolate (much like how VGC extrapolates its data from small samples to get 95% accurate numbers). It no longer becomes "one clerk at a store". It becomes "there are several instances of the XBone being in stock, it's not an outlier"
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So you have these couple of pictures with no context. They could have been hours or days before the launch event. You also say they were hours or days after launch and this article and the quote from MS is from this week. So what if they were hours or even days after the launch. That was like 2 weeks prior to the article. I mean look at one of those pictures is a pallet with the pallet jack still in it. They literlly didnt have time to pull the jack away and the pile was what 1/4 full. Its like the retailer said dont bother pulling the jack out let them all sell off then take the pallet and all back to receiving. Look how dark the other picture is. Looks to me like the store isnt even open yet.
How is a clerk that takes a phone call supposed to know when he walks back to the department that the customer service took in a return an hour or 10 minutes ago. All he/she knows is there is a unit on the shelf.
You can extrapolate what you want, but so can we by looking at sites that track availability, by going to retailers sites that allow you to check stores for inventory and see that wow they dont have any to sell that the X1 is in a sold out status.
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The first picture was from after launch, even though MS said they sold out when they launched. Then they'd do what they could to resupply. That second pic is another pile that was set up before Black Friday. It may be Black Friday, but that's a rather large pile for just one store when they're "just able to meet demand" and need to put units in other stores. So there's your context of those particular two pictures
And there are more like it all over the internet if you took a second to google it. I even saw one posted here from a user from a week after launched and there were rows upon rows stack on each other at a store a VGC user went to. I wish I could find that post, or at least the thread with the picture in it, And getting into the semantics of the pictures, the one that's still on the jack....have you never been to a big box department store? When they expect a product to just fly off the shelf, they don't actually put it on a shelf (since those only house like 5 or 6 units). They put it on a jack, a pallet, in a cart, etc to have as many out and as accessible as possible. And the other picture is dark? It's indoors, so that's just the lighting....and there's a kid on the left side browsing.
And yea, you can go to sites that track availability. Here, I did you one better. Amazon in stock, so tell all your buddies that want to get one (and this is after Black Friday and Cyber Monday as well). You see, I too am up to date with tracking sites (thank you Zoolerts and Wiilerts). I'm not just pulling this out of my ass
edit: I took a screenshot of me making this here edit, showing the XBone in stock, just as a precaution, in case you think I'm BSing about them being in stock
