Is X1 forcing Kinect on us any different than PS3 forcing Bluray on us?

[Michael-5]

Mr Puggsly said:

Michael-5 said:

 <-- This is not an insult?

Like I already told you, there are a lot of games not possible on 360 because of the DVD format of the disk. MGS IV is one of them.

~40GB PS3 games - A lot of it is content, a lot of the bigger 360 games use 2 disks which is about 20GB, Sony just has BR instead.

As for MS's vision of the XB1, again this is what their vision of the console is not mine. They can easily sell me one without Kinect since it doesn't affect any games yet, and won't be used for the bulk of most games.

Put it this way, having Kinect come with the XBO is the same type of add on as XBLG. I don't play much online, so why would I want to buy a bundle with XBLG? I don't play Kinect, maybe this is MS's vision of the console, but if you can already turn it off and unplug it....then why can't I just buy a console without it? MS's vision of XBO clearly includes people not using the Kinect, so all I'm saying is that they are forcing us to buy it?

Sony with the BR, it's not like the PS3 has 2 disk drives and you can choose not to use the BR drive.

Nope, its not an insult.

You keep telling me there are PS3 games not possible on the 360 because of DVD, but I keep saying I don't agree. My opinion differs from yours.

You seem to believe ~40GB PS3 games actually need that much space, I assure you that's not the case.

Bluray didn't do much for a bulk of PS3 games. In fact, it created an issue due to a slow disc drive.

Yes, the PS3 could have had two disc drives. That's a great idea.

Kinda is an insult, she's gotta be one of the ugliest actors around, and to have huh go "okay buddy"....it hurts to watch.

It's not opinion the MGS IV can't play on 360 without being redesigned from the ground up to do so. They can't just partition and port it.

~40GB PS4 games need the space, ~40 GB PS3 games probably need 20-30GB, which if they could be partitioned would mean 3-5 disks on the 360. That is if they can be partitioned, and who wants a 5 disk game? JRPG's aren't bad because they are linear, you only change disks once, but with something like The Last of Us?

OMG, so your telling me, on top of being a $700 system at launch, it could have been more expensive with a second disk drive?

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The main thing is Sony designed the system to use BR, and keep their games in that format. You can't buy a PS3 without a BR drive. Microsoft designed the XBO to use Kinect, but after serious backlash from the community, they made it possible to play XBO with Kinect off entirely. So if it's Microsofts vision to allow gamers to play without Kinect, including it is forcing it upon us.

PS3 is a very different situation because there was no option to play PS3 without the BR Drive. Maybe now that digital sales are strong, they could make an optical drive free PS3. However, they did try that with the PSP Go and it failed. Microsoft isn't doing shit, they want to increase profits, so they are forcing Kinect upon us, even though it's a part of their vision not to use it.