Is X1 forcing Kinect on us any different than PS3 forcing Bluray on us?

[Michael-5]

Mr Puggsly said:

Michael-5 said:

Again, instead of accepting the others opinion, you're choosing the moral high grounds of insulting the other when you just plain don't agree..

I think we're done here, and I think you're pretty biased towards to 360 if you think it could play some of the exclusives which are outside the systems processing capabilities.

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Anyway the thread was about Kinect, not graphics, and Kinect is not needed, so MS is forcing it upon us. Like many people said here, BR was a decision made to increase the amount of storage on a disk, and allow games more space. This largely paid off, as many PS3 exclusives hover around 40GB, and many late life 360 games, + JRPG's required 2 or more disks.

Kinect....isn't a design choice, it's a marketing ploy. It doesn't do anything to improve gameplay, and can be easily removed (unlike BR). So why is there no Kinect free package?

I didn't insult you, I just don't agree with the point you keep hammering. I don't accept your opinion.

There is no doubt in my mind developers can bring any PS3 exclusive to the 360. Could it look 100% exactly the same? Who knows?

 

PS3 exclusives are often ~40GB to speed up load times, not because the games have a lot of content.

As I said in my OP, the best things we saw from Bluray in the PS3 was sharper movies and less disc swaps.

I think the line between design and marketing is blurry. Obviously design choices are marketed.

MS's vision of the X1 included the Kinect. That's why there isn't a Kinect free package. Perhaps that'll change in the future to get the price down.

 <-- This is not an insult?

Like I already told you, there are a lot of games not possible on 360 because of the DVD format of the disk. MGS IV is one of them.

~40GB PS3 games - A lot of it is content, a lot of the bigger 360 games use 2 disks which is about 20GB, Sony just has BR instead.

As for MS's vision of the XB1, again this is what their vision of the console is not mine. They can easily sell me one without Kinect since it doesn't affect any games yet, and won't be used for the bulk of most games.

Put it this way, having Kinect come with the XBO is the same type of add on as XBLG. I don't play much online, so why would I want to buy a bundle with XBLG? I don't play Kinect, maybe this is MS's vision of the console, but if you can already turn it off and unplug it....then why can't I just buy a console without it? MS's vision of XBO clearly includes people not using the Kinect, so all I'm saying is that they are forcing us to buy it?

Sony with the BR, it's not like the PS3 has 2 disk drives and you can choose not to use the BR drive.