The reason why 3D Mario is not as popular as 2D Mario

[Arius Dion]

oniyide said:

Arius Dion said:

oniyide said:

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chocoloco said:

 

Dude making gaming generalizations based on this forum is anti-vgc we use numbers here and they do not reflect vgc opinions. 

chocoloco said:
I thought 2D Mario was made in a day when there was a lot less gaming diversity.

And making claims based on vague childhood memories (at best) is ok?

Since you mention numbers, there are eight different genres in VGC's top 20 best selling NES games but only six in the PS3 top 20. On top of that, gaming wasn't limited to consoles back then, we had something called arcades, plus PC gaming wasn't about playing console games at a bearable framerate. Both arcades and PCs had their own dominant genres.

100% agree. Younger folks don't do their research.

@OP: My sincerest thanks for highlighting this. This crusade of depriving 2D Marios of these things is very strange. Business 101 says to give attention to the games that sell the most. Why Miyamoto feels the need to convert 2D fans into 3D fans is assinine (ass-uh-ten, ass-u-eleven) I just wish for a 2D Mario game that pushes boundaries like the NES/SNES days.

 

ive been hearing this for awhile, but push boundaries...how? what are they supposed to do? Its not like they are NOT making 2d mario, hell we got two last year and DLC this year.

When did a 2D Mario release with recycled music? Recycled Graphics? Recycled Enemies? Recycled Levels? When did a 2D Mario bring nothing new to the table? NSMB series is so uninspired its insulting.

As the OP states, the 3D Marios get all the good stuff, the music, new worlds, old favorite powerups. I'd love an HD remake of Super Mario Bros. 3 with high production values new levels, worlds etc.

you say that NSMB is uninspiring (and I agree) then you say you want an HD REMAKE of Mario 3? sounds legit.

IMHO i kind of dont blame. Like you say its clear they dont care too much about 2d mario at least not as much as 3d, and really. Why would they? Look how much sales they are getting from NOT even trying, hell theyve been recycling stuff and people are still buying it by the MILLIONS. So why change, the message is clear that the fans dont care so why should they

When I say remake I mean in the way Resident Evil was remade for the cube. Hell they could even do a Mario All-Stars with added online co-op where Marios 1-World are redone, just to get the ball rolling.

The message is clear though, fans DO care. I think the half assed efforts of the past two 2D Mario games has a direct impact on the hardware sales of Wii U. Look at the facts, the market has never taken to 3D Mario as they have 2D Mario. Its not a matter of being 'casual' (hate that word) Or complex. It's a matter of Mario being born in 2D and with the shift to 3D, there are certain fundementals of Mario that are lost. As I've said look at Pac Man, is the 3D Pac-Mans seen by the market as really being PacMan? or do they see it as some warped perversion?

Some games work in 3D, absolutely, Zelda, GTA, Metal Gear Solid, Metroid etc. But others don't fair as well.

Nintendo is fighting against their own interests. Instead of putting the proper resources towards the games that sell they would rather have fun making the games they want to make. Isn't it ridiculous? 2D Mario sells so much better than 3D iterations, yet 3D gets the music, the production values, the new content, etc. And despite all of this, 2D Mario sells better. But eventually, you will piss off your base and when that happens, you get a cold reception, much like Wii U is experiencing now.