Goatseye said:
BMaker11 said:
If Blu ray is a "peripheral" then so is the the processor, graphics card, and the freaking fan inside the console =/
You made a rather silly comment there. How can you compare a component that makes the console work to a completely optional accesory? Tell me, would you still be able to enjoy your Xbox if Kinect wasn't there? Could you still play the games, browse the web, watch Netflix, etc? Now, could you do any of those things if you took away the blu ray player from the PS3? NO! Because the console wouldn't even turn on! It's utterly ridiculous to compare the benefit that blu ray gave to games since it's a media format built into and not an outside product. Now, had Microsoft built Kinect into the Xbox One and made it a component within the console, you'd have an argument
And you can brag all you want about how Kinect can sign in 5 people and keep your track of your settings....but does it really? I mean, it'll try and sign in your cat
or a pillow on the chair
I wouldn't brag too much about it's facial recognition.
And with regard to the voice commands, do you send text messages via voice or texting them out? I know you know how much error there is in trying to speak out a text message. Don't think just because Xbox is doing it that those same errors won't exist. I prefer just writing it out, and if you want to get really technical, PS has mouse and keyboard support, which is faster than voice commands or using the controller. And if you want to argue "well, M+K is extra. Sony is forcing you blah blah blah" my point still stands. Can you enjoy your PS/XB without K+M or Kinect? The answer is obviously yes.
edit: Not to mention Blu ray was the solution to the #1 game killer - scratched discs. All in all, if you truly want to make a comparison, Blu ray wins. Kinect's advantages are neglible. All it is is an alternate way of doing what you otherwise normally do. Blu ray saved game discs from being scratched, gave devs the space they needed to make games (it started to show later in the gen when 360 had to have multiple discs in many games), gave us HD movies (I don't care what anyone says, the difference between blu ray on an HDTV and DVD on an SDTV is just as much a difference as VHS to DVD), didn't have to split games up into multiple discs (Mass Effect 3 had to have a separate disc for side missions on 360; kinda crappy to have to swap discs just to do a side mission) and more. If you honestly believe all of that has less of an impact than "Xbox: watch ESPN", you're delusional
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#1 I don't read long paragraphs.
#2 Kinect is a peripheral and Blu-Ray disc drive is a peripheral.
#3 How many "multiple"games later on required multiple discs?
#4 Most games didn't add DLCs to a second disc, they just delivered them digitally. Moot point.
#5 If swapping discs make your gaming experience crappy try to play NES when the cartridge doesn't want to play.
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#1 yes, ignore valid points and their elaborations, should you raise a question had I simply left it as "x does y"
#2 So is a power supply a peripheral? The USB socket a peripheral? The power button? Instead of dancing around your false statement, just own up to it. Definition of "peripheral": a device that is connected to a host computer, but not part of it. It expands the host's capabilities but does not form part of the core computer architecture.
The Blu ray drive forms and is a part of the PS3. Kinect does not form the Xbox nor is it a part of it. It is a separate entity. Take blu ray away from PS3 and it's not a PS3 anymore. Take Kinect away from Xbox and it's still an Xbox
#3 The list is pretty expansive. Here you go.
#4 I didn't say anything about DLC being on a 2nd disc (unless we're talking Capcom. They're know for on disc DLC). I'm talking about having to switch discs to enjoy parts of a game. My example with ME3 was that the side missions were on the 2nd disc (not DLC. side missions. read: components of the game are on another disc). Imagine playing Fallout or Elder Scrolls (glad Bethesda optimized their game well so this wasn't an issue). You're playing the story and you decide you want to do some quests that don't necessarily advance the story. Well, you can't just go talk to an NPC and start the quest. You have to pop in the other disc to do that. And then, there's nothing but side quests on that disc. So if you want to advance the story, you have to swap in the first disc. I dunno about you, but in open world games like that, for example, I like to do things seamlessly.
#5 A broken game and disc swapping are two completely different things and you know it.
