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oniyide on 01 December 2013
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zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:

Unfortunately I don't think DKC is going to perform all that great. Maybe 2.5 million LTD over a long period of time. 

The system is over-saturated with platformers (again poor planning on Nintendo's part), heck the system comes with 1 1/2 platformers bundled right from the get go.

I think sales will indeed sag quite a bit from Jan-March. Mario Kart is where they basically have to make their big stand I think. Price cut for sure around there if not the nuclear option of a gamepad-free SKU for an even deeper possible price drop. 


NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii, GB, GBC, GBA, DS, 3DS all are very platformer heavy and they didnt seem to cannabalize each other. 

Also looking at mainline Donkey Kong games on consoles in the past 20 years all have sold much better than 2.5 million.

 

Donkey Kong Country-9.3m, Donkey Kong Country 2-5.15m, Donkey Kong Country 3-3.5m, Donkey Kong 64-5.27m, Donkey Kong Country Returns-5.97m, thats on consoles with install bases ranging from 33-100m so install base really isnt a huge factor for Donkey Kong games. Even Donkey Kong Jungle Beat which was a non-traditional entry that used an unpopular and expensive bongo add-on sold 1.34m.

Gamecube only had an install base of 22m and if it had a mainline traditional Donkey Kong platformer it likely would have sold 4m. As long as Wii U ends up with over 10m install base than Tropical Freeze should sell 2.5m.

that doesnt make sense the consoles and from different generations, that cant eat each other sales because they were never in competition. Portables dont directly compete with consoles.

I didnt mean the consoles affected each other. He said DKC wont do well because Wii U already has alot of platformers and I was saying every Nintendo console has alot of platformers so Rayman/Mario/Sonic wont necessarilly affect DKC sales.

NES had 3 Marios, Kid Icarus, a few DK remakes, Ice Climbers, Kirby that all sold well. SNES had Mario World, Mario All Stars, Yoshi, 3 DKC games and they all sold extremely well. N64 had Mario, DK64, Yoshi, 2 Banjo games, Kirby and they all sold well. GC had Mario and multiple Sonics that sold well. Wii had 3 Marios, 2 Kirbys, DKC, multiple Sonics that sold well. GB/GBC had multiple Marios, Kirbys, Donkey Kongs, Warios that sold well. GBA had 4 Mario Advances, 3 DKC, Wario,  a couple Kirbys and Sonic games that sold well. DS had 2 Marios, multiple Kirbys, multiple Sonics, a couple Yoshi games that all sold well. 3DS has 2 Mario games, 2 Sonic games and Yoshi/Kirby are on the way and likely wont be affected by Mario/Sonic.

All I was saying is Nintendo consoles are always platformer heavy and Mario/Sonic/Rayman wont hurt DKC in any meaningful way. Its like saying Far Cry on Xbox One wont do good because it will already have Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo by the time it releases or that Tales will do bad on PS4 because it will already have Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts on it by the time it releases. If ur a big fan of a genre u usually buy multiple games in that genre.


ok, that makes more sense, I would go one step further and say DK and Mario are just so much more popular than Rayman or Sonic. So they wont effect each ohter. IMHO its not so much platformers are popular, moreso Ninty games.