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bosslug said:
Soundwave said:

No offense but this kinda sniffs of pre-emptive damage control because some Nintendo fans have spent the better part of a year hying up the year end 2013 period as a guaranteed 3DS like turn around and now we're supposed to buy the "well, 2013 was never important anyway, it's all about 2014" line?

If its a healthy platform it should have both a good holiday season and good momentum into next year, it should not be a case of either/or. That line of reasoning doesn't make any sense really, I mean if people are not buying the system with NSMBU/Mario 3D World/Wii Party/Wii Sports/Pikmin 3/Wii Fit/Sonic/LEGO, then that doesn't bode well at all for something like Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (which is a shame because I love that franchise).

There's no excusing a modest holiday.

Why does there have to be this he said she said statement? I honestly don't see how it offends you so much that fans of Nintendo try to remain optimistic for a console they've probably invested in. Yes the WiiU is not looking great but it shouldn't bother you so much that fans of the console defend it and remain hopeful for its future


I don't have an issue with it, honestly I do hope the console does reasonably well, but there was almost an angry vitirol spewed by some Nintendo fans earlier in the year for anyone daring to question the system. There seemed to be that constant "wait for Pikmin and Zelda and Mario!!!! Are you stoooopid?! It just needs moar games!" sentiment thrown in various poster's faces. 

I've invested probably all told a good $600+ in the Wii U. $350 for the console w/Nintendo Land + Mario 3D World + NSMBU + BLOPS2 + W101 + Tekken TT2 + ACIV + Zelda: WWHD + a Pro Controller + a Mario Wiimote + various VC downloads (Earthbound etc.) just for the record. 

I think we're just seeing an erosion of the Nintendo console market in terms of demographics. That's the main issue here, casual gamers have gone elsewhere and mini-game collections are bombing left and right (Wii Party U and Mario & Sonic incoming), which leaves Nintendo the kids market beyond their traditional loyalist fanbase. And kids are tricky ... the kids who were maybe 8 or 9 when they got a Wii in 2007 are 14/15 today and quite possibly more interested in the Playstation/XBox by now. It seems to be a tough market for cartoony games in general ... even Sony ones like Puppeteer aren't taking (Tearaway is probably another victim) and things like Rayman can't find a large audience either.