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KingdomHeartsFan said:

1. Nintendo to discontinue the Wii U:  This is never gonna happen and anyone that things it will obviously was not around when Sega left the hardware bussiness.  It makes no sense for Nintendo to drop the Wii u because they'd lose all trust from the consumer and no one would buy their next system also Nintendo has way more than enough money to whether the storm of one bad console, especially considering they have another console, the 3DS, selling amazing.  Also ITS ONLY BEEN 1 YEAR and people are already saying they are gonna drop support, oh ya just ignore the Wii U's 2014 lineup destroys the PS4's and X1's.

2. Wii U will sell less than the Gamecube:  I can't believe anyone actually thinks this, but lets think about this logically.  The Wii U managed to sell 4m units in 1 year with terrible first party support, now the Gamecube only managed to sell 21m units...anyone that thinks the Wii U won't easily reach 21m is crazy.  Nintendo is releasing a huge lineup of first party games next year and Nintendo tends to save 1 or 2 games to reveal at E3 and release for holiday season, this year will probably be Zelda U or Miyamoto's new IP or both, add those to SSB, MK8, X, Bayonetta 2, Yoshi Yarn, Donkey Kong TF, and SMT x FE anyone that thinks the Wii U will sell less than 10m next year, which is half the total GC sales, is crazy.  If it can sell 4m in this year with that terrible support it can easily sell 10m next year with that huge lineup.

3. Wii U will be a failure:  So the Wii U won't manage to sell the numbers that the PS4 and X1 will I think we can all agree on that, but IT DOESN'T NEED TO.  Nintendo does not have as much invested into the Wii U as Sony and Microsoft have in the PS4 and X1, they don't have a billion servers or w/e so they don't need to sell as much units to be a success.  I'd say if they manage to sell 30-40m Wii U's they can easily pull a profit off it and it would be considered a success for them.  

So are we done with all these dumbass threads?

1) There are plenty of ways Nintendo could save consumer goodwill if they dropped the Wii U in 2014. If Nintendo came out and said our 2014 titles will be the last games released for Wii U, but hey they'll be free digitial downloads for all Wii U owners I think most owners would give them the benefit of the doubt. Also, most of us Wii U owners are long time Nintendo fans who wouldn't stop loving the company just because they had a bit of a flop. I bet most Virtual Boy owners still buy Nintendo products.

You also are misunderstanding how business works if you think shareholders will just let the company throw away good money after bad because they can. Yes, they technically could afford to support a flop but this is a publically traded company who have a legal responsibility to their shareholders to maximise profit.

I'm not even going to touch the 2014 line up comment. Sure it looks good to us as Nintendo fans but Wonderful 101 was one of my favourite games of all time and look how that turned out.

 

2) It would be totally fair to assume Wii U will sell less than Gamecube at this point. The Gamecube is currently well ahead in sales as has already been pointed out.

There has been absolutely nothing from Nintendo to suggest either Zelda, FExSMT or Yoshi are coming out next year. DK was delayed into February because of a massive hole in the release schedule so this should tell you there isn't a "huge" lineup for 2014. I don't think anyone is expecting Bayo 2 and X to do too much in excess of 500k (and I'm being generous there). Mario Kart and Smash Bros. are the only major titles we know about for next year and these are games that were also available on the Gamecube. Smash's system selling potential will be further reduced by the fact that it's on 3DS as well.

 

3) I agree Nintendo don't need to 'win' the generation to maintain a healthy profit and market share. But they need to do a LOT better than what they are doing. If they continue along this path they are going to drive their IP's into irrelevancy. And when it comes down to it, Nintendo is entirely reliant on its IP.

 

So no, I hope we aren't done with the discussions about the Wii U. Sticking your head in the sand and banning discussion is exactly what WON'T help Nintendo through this period. This is a site about sales and it is entirely fair that the Wii U is being criticised. It's sales are something we haven't seen since the Virtual Boy. Try not to take the awful sales personally and if it's really bothering you go play some Wonderful 101 and console yourself with the fact that billions of people are missing out on such a masterpiece