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roborad on 26 November 2013
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Scisca said:
sales2099 said:
vkaraujo said:
I hope sony does win, but it is too early to talk about that.
PS4 had the best launch, but XONE also had a great one.

Maybe we should just be happy the industry is doing so well.

Nope, its pretty clear. Mainland Europe and Japan alone seal the deal.PS4 will win.

X1 will still sell reasonably well, make a profit, and everybody will win (except Nintendo lol). Least that is how things stand now.

If MS has the balls, they will release a $299 Kinect-less X1 alongside Halo 5 for Holiday 2014......then you got a real war on our hands


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Mark my words, Wii U is about to explode soon, the upcoming lineup looks great, once it gets a pricecut to $249 everyone will want it. Remember, it's not competing with PS4 and XO, so no matter how successful PS4 is, it changes nothing for Wii U. With the way PS4 dominates XO I can see Wii U selling more than XO. You can't allow your competitor to dominate you, because it's gonna be a landslide. MS has to put up a fight or we can see PS4 dominating it PS2 style. 

If PS4 becomes the obvious first option, the first console people want to pick up, most people won't consider XO as the second option, because it's too similar. Most games they already have on their PS4, it's just too expensive for the added quality. On the other hand Wii U is cheap and has an original lineup and will become the obvious second choice. That is why people thinking Wii U will be last this gen are jumping the gun. Soon MS may be watching Nintendo's back. I have full confidence in N.

Also - I don't think XO without Kinect will sell that much and change the game. Kinect seems to be a major point of emphasis of XO, the whole console is built around it. Such a console would probably share the fate of Wii U basic. Nobody is picking it up, because people don't want an inferior product. What is more, without Kinect you just get a weaker PS4 for the same price and a feeling of guilt that you're too cheap to get the full experience. MS is gonna experience just how hard it was for Sony to turn PS3 into what it is now.

I think it's a bit foolish to think that a $100 cheaper xbox one won't move a significant amount of units compared to the xbox one in its current form and price.  Like you said, the Wii U and the X1/PS4 are competing for different audiences.  

What you observed with the Wii U Basic edition might not be the same one bit with what you might see with a kinect-less, $399 Xbox One.  And judging from a ton of feedback posts from nearly all social media websites, people are almost universally claiming to be holding out on a kinect-less cheaper Xbox One.