Licence said:
BMaker11 said:
Licence said:
BMaker11 said:
This Licence guy is trying to take the small, small, *small* number of instances of PS4s having issues, and blow it up to mean that half of them are breaking and everyone is trying to downplay and cover it up.
Ok, let's get an equal number of reported instances and then blow that up to mean an unacceptable number XBones are breaking:
http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1r6wb3/xbox_one_issues_so_far/
4-5 reported cases of disc drives not working, 1 case of hanging loading screens, 1 case of a ban after putting in the EOU update.
PS4 had about 8 initial reports of issues, and everyone blew it out of proportion. So let's use this Licence guy's logic for this situation. There are 7 reports of XBone issues, so that means they're all breaking! And it's only 7 so far. To deny these *sneer* damning statistics is you just covering up that Microsoft has put out a bad product
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When almost 30% of the reviews on your product is 1-star DOA reviews from verified customers, then the problem can hardly be described as "small, small, *small*". And there are almost a thousand of them, not the 8 you are talking about.
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The initial number of reports, in that 24 hour window from launch, was about 8 and the media went and ran with it. Reporting "omg, PS4s are breaking left and right". Causing Sony to release the official statement that less than 0.4% were screwing up. But no, the media storm is making you go "look, look! These Amazon reviews just prove that all the consoles are breaking!" all the while ignoring the other 80% that give it 5 star reviews.
It's been 8 hours since the XBone launched (and that thread was started 10 hours ago). There's already been 7 reports in that window of time (and that's just on Reddit alone). Now let's wait until the media catches wind of this, and I and many others will have readily accessible "data" once that small sample size gets blown out of proportion. And more importantly, let's wait til the XBone has more than 88 reviews, since apparently that's the end all, be all metric
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That's all very interesting, but besides the point. The question of this thread is: are PS4's still breaking? And according to hundreds of verified Amazon customers, they are. The issue is on-going.
You have accused me of coming to a conclusion based 8 faulty units and a media frenzy, none of which I ever mentioned or referenced. Will you acknowledge that this accusation is without substance?
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No, I won't because "on-going" implies that more PS4 are being made and they keep breaking, as if the problem isn't being fixed at the source. We have an official figure based on the initial shipment of PS4s. They aren't "still breaking" when there's no new stock being put in the channels. We have the sell through number from the initial wave of consoles sold (over 1 million) and the figure that less than 0.4% are broken.
If we see more reports and official percentages increase and go from 0.4% to 1%, 1% to 1.5%, etc. then we can call it an "on-going" issue, because amongst that initial stock, a higher and higher rate of them would be reported to have broken. Yet, the percentage still sits at less than 0.4%. Otherwise, RROD is an "on-going" issue because the fail rate is 33%. What's happening here is akin to "We have 100 apples. 10% will be rotten" then 5 are reported to be rotten. That leaves another 5 to be rotten, but you say "there's an on-going issue of rotten apples" even though we have a known number of apples that are consumed and a known rate of how many will be rotten at the end of the day. There are 1,000,000 PS4s in consumer hands. 0.4% is the number. When anything over 4,000 of them break, it'll be an issue worth our time.
And I don't think my accusation is without substance. It is based on reasonable evidence. And that is the fact that we're having this conversation because the media made it a huge issue (when it isn't) and that came to be because of that small sample of initial reports. Be honest: would you have gone to Amazon's reviews in order to parrot "Look at how many are failing!" if everyone treated it like the non-issue that it is? PS3 has like a 5% fail rate, but did anyone complain about that, en masse? No. But you want to take the figure of <0.4% and make it seem like the end of the world
Sure.....my accusation is just completely baseless and without substance *shrugs*
