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Gee-Gee said:
prayformojo said:

How is that even possible? The Wii-U install base is too tiny for it to sell well and nothing is going to make people buy it, not even a perfect 10 Mario. I know some people are STILL holding out hope that there is a magic game out there that's going to propel this console to the top of the charts, but it's just not going to happen. It's going to be a stellar game for those who still love Mario, but it's not going to be Titanfall or COD.

NSMB was the most popular Mario ever released, I believe, and look how to follow up did. If that game couldn't sell Wii-U, how is this game going to do it?

So, super mario 3D world has the highest metacritic. The WiiU hasn't been selling but many people are wondering why. My view is that there are no games that are attracting customers. The expected system sellers failed to perform (especially NSMB), so the answer is in the quality. People are not liking the quality, or the lack of fresh ideas in NSMB. 3D World is showing another appeal. With the quality we're seeing, if SM3DW ends up being a system seller, it could very well be the game of the holidays for the family market. So that covers the NSMB point you bring up.

About COD, COD beats 3D Mario in sales, even was the case for Galaxy. It doesn't make it a better game, it really makes it the most popular. McDonalds is popular, but it's not the best food. So COD being game of the holidays is a debatable point. Also, I don't expect families to enjoy COD together (in general). But I expect them to play SM3DW together. That's why I said game of the holidays for the family market. I don't think Titanfall will do as well as Mario 3D honestly. It's exclusive to the X1 and it's made by EA. I don't think it will sell well at all, but I could be wrong. Also, it releases next march, after the holidays.

You make alot of good points, but I just don't think anything will make the Wii-U a commercial success. I've seen things like this before with Dreamcast and Gamecube. The Gamecube had alot of great games. Some of them could make top 10 greatest games of all time list. But the system never picked up in sales because at that time, consumers just wanted something else instead. That's my argument. That consumers just want other things right now.