Update: 94 on MetaCritic! Super Mario 3D World: A Game Once Doubted Is Now Highest Rated Game of The Holiday! Anybody Eating Crow?

[F0X]

Gee-Gee said:

F0X said:

What facts? Whether or not something is a "proper" anything is only a matter of opinion. I simply been pointing out that this, after all, is a 3D Mario game, and some people even had the gall to debate me on it by calling 3D World and 3D Land "improper".

It's the No True Scotsman fallacy, and it's being applied to video games. I'm sick of this attitude.

Okay, first and foremost, every studio has its expectations, as does every franchise. There is nothing wrong with expecting the best from the best.

If you are a fan of something very popular and highly-acclaimed, then a follow-up to that which doesn't meet that quality will let fans down. You can be upset by that attitude, but when your beloved company falls on its face due to failure in sales, then your problem becomes much more than the attitudes of some people.

I admit that there's a way to go about it, but I don't see a problem with people having a hard time with a company they love getting lazy. It's actually very healthy for the company, it gives them a sounding board. If the game lacks quality, I believe it's fair for them to say "this is not a true ... game".

As an example: Wand of gamelion. 

An extreme example. In this case, 3D Land was already highly successful and well-recieved, and even from the E3 trailer it was clear that 3D World would be greatly expanding on its foundation. Also, it was the first trailer of 3D World. It would've been best for people to wait for the game to come out before declaring that it wasn't a quality product. I pointed that out multiple times. It's too early to say it won't be half as good as Galaxy. It's too early to say that it's basically 3D Land with multiplayer. I didn't make a prediction that it would be amazing - I just took the sensible route!