20 million sellers for the wii!

[jimmay]

BengaBenga said:

jimmay said:

Stillwell said:
Ok, Jimmay has got to be one of the biggest tards I've seen here. Calls everyone a fanboy, refuses to listen to any arguements but his own and constantly act hypocritical. Piss off and don't come back?

The problem is nobody has proved me wrong, i provide facts to back up my opinions, just because somebody says im wrong doesnt mean i am, if you can't prove me wrong but keep saying im wrong then that makes you a fanboy who can't take the truth.

It's really really simple folks, theirs a reason why lots of wii games get bad scores, because they are bad games, instead of people accepting these are bad games we've got people now claiming that even tho the reviews system which has been accepted by the gaming world for decades is now some how flawed.....what a joke, yeah keep telling yourself that now magically the review system is the problem not the low quality of games.

I'm sorry but the truth is what casual gamers look for are short, shallow games with minimal skill and they don't care about most of the key components that make a good game.

OK I'll prove you wrong.

You say: PS2 sold very well because: MGS2, FFX, DMC, GT3 and R&C were coming. Using that analogue the PS3 should be selling like PS2 did, which it isn't (and if you show me the graph I'll give you a detailed post why it still isn't).

Wii on the other hand sells even better than PS2 did.

Games: 1) Wii has the best game of this gen so far, 2) Casual games sold very well on PS2, yet no-one complains about it, 3) Good games take a while to make, Wii will definitely see an increase in quality 3rd party games this year. Devs were not suspecting the huge success, therefore run behind in development compared to PS360 4) Quality of "fun" games is very different from single player experiences. You sound like you never used your console for multiplayer fun, I suggest to invite a couple of people (including some girls) and try WiiSports, M&S at the Olympics heck even Carnival games. You'll have for the bargain of $50,- an amazing evening/night.

I didn't say the only reason why the ps2 sold was because of upcoming games i said it was just one of the reasons. Also Gran turismo 3 came out in the summer not christmas and plenty of people brought the system just for that game. As well as that it was a cheap dvd player and was fully backwards compatible. The ps3 is in a worse position because most of it's top franchises still haven't been released where as at the same point in the ps2's life cycle they had been released and on top of that the ps3 was priced too highly and probably is still to expensive where as the ps2 wasn't. To answer your other points:

1). One game is not enough by itself.

2). Casual games sold well on the ps2 but they didnt dominate it, i've already shown that 64% of the ps2's million sellers were rated 80% or above where as the wii only has 40% of it's million rated games at 80% or above. 

3). Good games do take time to make but by now you'd expect a few of them to have been annouced but they haven't. In the mean time more and more top games are being annouced for the 360 and ps3.

4). I play all types of games and invite guys and girls over to play them, the casual gamers i know fully acknowledge they don't know much about games and what makes a good game, they know when they are playing something which is just abit  of dumb fun and they fully accept that it is a lower quality of product, they just don't have the time, the skill or the money to play bigger and better games.