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marley on 13 November 2013
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Lawlight said:
marley said:
Lawlight said:
marley said:

The Wiiu has only sold 3.86 million consoles, of course the game hasn't sold 20+ million.  That doesn't mean it's a weak IP or that it can't compete.  It's selling really well at 2.14m (55% attach rate).  Comparing apples to apples, how many copies of CoD, Fifa, or Assassin Creed do you think would sell on a userbase of 4 million? 

I know this is a rather faulty comparison, but on the Vita's 6M userbase:

  1. CoD: .78M (13% attach)
  2. Assassin's Creed: .75M (12.5% attach)
  3. Fifa 12: .27M (4.5% attach)
  4. Fifa 13: .04M (.6% attach)

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. FIFA 12 sold more than 0.27M.


Sorry, that should have been 13 and 14.  I'm trying to say that the IP didn't sell that well to an equivilent sized userbase (PSV).  If it was just as strong then it should have still been able to move units. 

Otherwise, accounting for every system, Fifa is still only selling about 10-13M to a potential userbase of ~300M.  It's not selling 10M because the IP is strong, it's selling 10M because the pool of customers is so large.  Yet you're claiming that a game which sold 26.83M to a userbase of 100M isn't strong enough to compete.  Your claim that NSMB or Mario Kart wouldn't be able compete with those IPs on multiple consoles, (when they can on just 1 console) completely baffles me.   

Your additional claim that Nintendo's numbers shouldn't count because they only happened during the Wii generation doesn't matter.  Fifa's sales before last gen (even released on every system) was lucky to get to 4M.  Look at CoD's sales before last gen, it was lucky to sell a few million.  I guess that makes them flukes as well?  Meanwhile, Mario Kart Double Dash (the weaker IP in your opinion) sells 6.95M to a userbase of 21.74 (32% attach). 

 

 

Because people have other systems to buy those games on?


I feel like you're just messing with me now.  "People have other systems to buy those games on", yet they still purchase LESS.  That's the point.  They have a larger userbase and they still sell LESS games. 

Mario Kart has always sold MORE copies (even with a smaller userbase) than CoD, Assassin's Creed, or Fifa.  That shows it is a stronger IP.   You, on the other hand, have not provided anything at all to back up your flimsy claim. 

It's fine if you want to blindly believe that those other IPs are stronger, but the numbers show that you are wrong.