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Wyrdness on 11 November 2013
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Michael-5 said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Ha no. Sequels dont factor into their plans.These guys want to own the market. I dunno what Iwata did to them, but they're insane. They got something in their eyes, I dunno man.

People will get tired of the same games over an over, Nintendo can't rely on Mario forever, just like Bungie can't rely on Halo, Rockstar can't rely on GTA (but I see this sticking for a while), and Activision can't rely on COD forever.

Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Madworld Sold better than Anarchy Reigns did XD

Mad World is a better game.

orniletter said:

So this is one of those threads ?

 

Yeah, the Wonderful 101 didn´t flop to apocalyptic proportions Kinda Did.

and the 3DS didn´t see Kid Icarus: Uprising. Not a new IP

I hate this type of thread because:

-the thread creator ignores the many new IPs Nintendo made (W101, Elite Beat Agents, Jam with the Band, the Wii stuff,Pandora´s Tower, The Last story, touch generation games  etc.) Will comment on this below

-ignores the sequels to series that didn´t have a new entry in close to a decade (Pikmin, Luigi´s Mansion, Kid Icarus) If you read my OP, I did give Nintendo credit for waiting a while on some IP's, but it's still the same games over and over

-acts like new IPs are  better on principle than games with known characters, even if the new IP´s gameplay is  standard fare for the genre

-put´s the blame on Miyamoto when Miyamote just won´t shut up about retiring and wanting to move to new/smaller games. Didn't know this, YAY

 

Look at the PS4/XBone´s launch line up. Ryse appears to be a shallow 0815 hack´n slash game. Knack looks like straight out of the PS2/GameCube generation (in a bad way, from the gameplay perspective). Not a comparision, don't care

And the SNES stuff will never happen again, games need 60+   staff members nowadys. You could make a SNES game with far less.


So you mentioned that Nintendo did make some new IP's, but you made a list of games published by Nintendo and developed by someone else the only Nintendo developed new IP you mentioned was Jam With the Band.

Now hear me out, I'm not ranting out just new IP's, but new Ideas in games. Donkey Kong Country was a Donkey Kong game, the mascot existed already. Yoshi's Island, well that's a spinoff from a newly introduced Nintendo character. Plus Mario Part, Kart, Paper, etc, are still Mario games, just a different genre.

Where is the imagination nowadays? Is the best Nintendo can come up with is a Cat Suit for 3D Worlds? or a Bee suit for Galaxy? They will probably be awesome games, but they just aren't as epic as "Metal Mario", Yoshi, Wario, etc....

That's my critisism. The only new Mario franchise of recent years is Soccer, and that's not enough.

You complain about imagination then used Galaxy as your example? Galaxy had a concept that opened up level design for platforming games beyond what we had seen before if you think the was no imagination there then I question what exactly you're expecting. New IPs are just that, it doesn't matter who develops them it's the content owner (in this case Nintendo) who has commisioned the idea and given it the green light, getting an outside studio to develop them is nothing new for any platform holder.

Your logic is not very clear here, Donkey Kong Country was not like other platformers let alone the previous games regardless if the character was already, Mario Kart created a sub genre of racing games and Paper Mario is a unique RPG like no other. It seems like you're trying to dismiss all creative aspects just because they have a familar character, that's not how determining new aspects works and a flawed approach.